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2014 road tax laws. Vehicles changing hands, tax refunded.
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:08 pm
by rob quilter
So with the new road tax laws and the obilishment of paper discs, when a vehicle changes hands all full months remaining have to be refunded, and the new owner has to pay for fresh tax.
Thoughts on this?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/el ... ce-2981548
It maybe a headache, and I can't imagine how the new system will be less paperwork for the dvla. Although I like the idea of paying for YOUR road tax.
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:12 pm
by Donald
I like the idea as well, but it is nice when you purchase a car and have tax paid and ready to go. I can see this being an annoyance.
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:19 pm
by rob quilter
Thinking about it....the dvla will profit more from this system.
They will only refund full complete months, so if you sell your car a few days into a month you won't get any refund for that month. So the dvla will get virtually a full month of tax paid to them for free. 30 million cars on the road, that's a lot of tax they won't have to pay back.
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:24 pm
by Donald
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:22 pm
by wurlycorner
rob quilter wrote:So with the new road tax laws and the obilishment of paper discs, when a vehicle changes hands all full months remaining have to be refunded
That assumes you've paid for it all up front, of course. If you're paying by DD, that would explain why it would have to work the way you've described?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:35 pm
by GreenyUK
This sounds ridiculous to me and another money making scheme.
How will the tax disc be cancelled? Is it up to the seller to cancel?
So you have to go to the seller buy the car but leave it there? Take the green slip and the insurance doc that you would of had to print prior to buying the car

To the post office, get new tax then go back to the seller to get your car?! This is plain stupid?
So if you have to cancel the tax and new owner has to get new tax. It's no longer vehicle tax?
It's gone from road tax to vehicle tax (since none! Of the money wad every spent on roads) to person tax for owning a car.. After getting taxed to earn the money to buy it. Paying tax on buying it..

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:00 pm
by Gayno
GreenyUK wrote:So you have to go to the seller buy the car but leave it there? Take the green slip and the insurance doc that you would of had to print prior to buying the car To the post office, get new tax then go back to the seller to get your car?! This is plain stupid?
I think you've missed the other point in that from October this year, it is all digital anyway. So you can either a) pay for the new tax before you leave home to pick up your new car if deposit put down already or b) do it via your phone/the sellers PC if you're going to look at an unknown car and want to take it away there and then.
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:12 pm
by Vtecmec
Typical, now the gov will get paid twice for the month whenever a secondhand car changes hands.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:42 am
by NafemanNathan
Money making yes. But it's not really going to effect either party buying or selling a car in my opinion.
If selling a car, you either had the new owner give you face value for its remaining months, cashed it in to get the remaining months back yourself, or plain and simply lost it to the new owner in the sale of the car. So with that said, now, you're guaranteed to not loose out anymore than you would have previously and it gives the buyer no reason to haggle the cost of it from you.
Then with regards to the buyer. Again, not a major change... The previous owner would have either charged you face value for the remaining months, made you re-tax it yourself anyway, or possibly thrown it into the price of the sale... But what's to gurantee the guy didn't have his head switched on and add the value into the asking price anyway

Yes the tax for that month for that car has been twice, but it hasn't actually cost the buyer any more. There are plenty of other avenues to knocking the asking price of a car down.
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:18 am
by bb1boy
It doesn't matter much to me, I don't sell cars anyway, I usually scrap them or crash them into walls.