Lude Generation

Can only assume the producer was a spotty college student.

Absolutely bloody awful production - basically got the equaliser, whacked up the frequency slider on the far right hand side and far left hand side and either left the rest where they were, or pulled the rest down, then called it job done

Find this so often with modern recordings, it's all bloody trebble frequencies with a bit of sub frequencies thrown in but nothing in between

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Though on the subject of speakers/sound systems etc, they all seem to be set up for hi and lo frequency, nothing for mid range.
Go to any car dealer and look at the stereos on the display models. I can pretty much guarantee that the treble and bass settings will be turned all the way up.

People nowadays seem to assume that lots of bass = expensive.

lxstuart wrote: People nowadays seem to assume that lots of bass = expensive.

Nail on the head.

you cant make a horse drink and you cant get dynamic range back into music production.

Dire straits 'brothers in arms' was recorded with the broadest dynamic range of any album ever while justin beibers album was recorded with the shortest or 'loudest'. this says it all.

Without dynamic range (the difference in volume between the most and least attenuated sounds) all you get is this BLAAAAAARRRRRYYY sounding trash.

Music is dead thanks the shitty quality repoduction media. Shitty iphone speakers etc mean that you need to squashb as much sound into as short a range as possible or you ''cant hear it''

drokking luddites.

^^^^ sad but absolutely true. This days music must be loud. Otherwise shitheads listening to it from mobile phones wouldn't be interested. And there is no need for any dynamics as you can't hear it anyway. Similar in your car. Road/engine noise determine you to put music louder, so why producers didn't have to help you with this. Looks like more people who will buy their productions. And at least how many people has really good home audio? Not cheapo home cinema with speakers not much bigger than mobile phones ones? How does your computer/laptop speakers looks like? good creative 2.1 stuff with 10cm subwoofer, and 2.5cm satellites?
My first good stereo set was using 2x25cm woofers, 10cm mid and tweeter each box. Now I have monitor audio home cinema set and they are using 2x16cm woofers (I'm still not sure as one of them may be just a passive membrane), 16cm woofer/mid(crazy setup for me) and tweeter in fronts, and only one 16cm woofer/mid and tweeter in rears. I'm missing my old setup, and new one cost over 5 grand but has no chance to sound like my old good stero.

And there we go. This is the answer IMHO.

put a record payer on yr 5k stereo and some new vinyl like brothers in arms you will tell the diff cds are cut and inhanced

what I was wanna say is this days even expensive sound system isn't so good as oldschool ones.

Back to dates when we were using vinyls your soud system was typicaly stacionary. Even when casette players showed up still most of them were used at home. You could take your music to the car or when you go for a walk but still only about 90 minutes and sometimes spare set of batteries. It was big WOW because finaly you get this possibility but still unpractical. BTW I think this was the moment when all the bad things to sound dynamics has started.

Today everybody have smartphones ipods and similar stuff. You can store in most of them weeks of cont played music. Don't have to worry about batteries as you get super quick charger in box and quite advanced battery lasting for 1000s cykles. Sizes of this devices many times are smaller then headphones used with it. This means you can take it everywhere you like and many of us using them in not so friendly enviromental as home.

Manufacturers of home audio systems looking for savings everywhere and their products are what they are. To sell their product it must look good and cost close to nothing.

And then music records producers must compensate it somehow. I'm not saing it's good what they do, but it looks like this world just pushing them to do so. And personaly I do expect in the future it wont be any better.

I would compare it to the engines. Same as speakers back and now engines are downsized. And then there is a space for compresors and turbo chargers which wasn't needed some time before. You wanted more powerfull car so as a manufacturer you loaded it with V12 6ltr and job done.
So now all records are turbocharged and doesn't sound so nicely as V12