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Need some help and information

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:04 pm
by hondaddict
Hello everybody :D

I have a problem and some of you may help me, i'll try to explain it as clear as possible, please forgive my bad English as i'm a "bloody" french and my English lessons are far beyond ...


In July i have bought from a french guy an aftermarket MFactory 4.64 final drive.
This guy is on the Accord Type R Facebook page and some of you may have noticed that there was two final drive for sale on the Facebook ATR group.

One of these final drive is a true one, the other is a fake as my seller has sended to me an OEM final drive :shock: :shock: :shock:
It was paid with paypal but when i send back the fake final drive, the seller said that the part sended back was not the part he sended and then i've lost my money...

So actually i'm going to go to the Justice Court, to try to keep back my money and i was wondering what have become the true final drive, as i know for sure that my seller previously really owned a MFactory final drive...

So does anybody have bought a MFactory 4.64 final drive from a french seller here?

Thanks a lot for your help :D

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:08 pm
by Drax
Mine was brand new I'm afraid :|

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:11 pm
by vanzep
Yep most buy new Mfactory final drives - tegiwa/htune etc

Shiny has an ATR and is on the ATR forum so he might know more about the seller than the rest of us ;)

It would have been better from a legal standpoint if you had kept the final drive that was sent to you or had it inspected by an independent expert/gearbox builder/garage before returning it. Either way it is going to be very difficult to prove anything as it all boils down to your work against his.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:00 am
by hondaddict
Hi guys!

Thanks for the input :D
Well, i hope that one day i'll find what really happened to this final drive :?

vanzep: you are right, it will be hard to prove anything but i don't have any other solution unfortunatly :oops:

One thing is sure, i'll never use PayPal anymore as they didn't guarantee anything, they don't care at all about the Truth and they only want to earn some money on your back...
I've phoned them several time and they always lie to me :shock: :shock: :shock: , it is really a shame :evil:

Well, i'm not here to flame PayPal but if some of you knows somebody who may have bought a MFactory 4.64 final drive this year from a french guy, it will really help me :D

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pm
by nitin_s1
There is one French person selling a Mfactory FD on Facebook ATR page.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:54 pm
by hondaddict
Thanks Nitin for the input . There was two seller and my seller still have for sale some others parts, for example an Endynn modified intake manifold.

The seller you have saw on Facebook is F.D i presume? His final drive is not a fake ;) My seller is J.C :oops:

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:22 pm
by nitin_s1
hondaddict wrote:The seller you have saw on Facebook is F.D i presume? His final drive is not a fake ;) My seller is J.C :oops:
Yes his name is F and D and he is selling it for £400. :? I'm not sure if his one is fake or not :oops:

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:45 am
by hondaddict
About F D , i'm sure that his final drive is really a MFactory 4.64 ;)

I'm looking for somebody who may have bought one from J C , that actually still have others atr parts for sale ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:17 pm
by Shiny
Sorry, just seen my tag in this. As far as I can tell so far you bought it from Jesus?

Give me some proper names and facts and I'll start stirring some jobby up. I'm admin on both the ATR FB page and the ATR owners FB page. I can't be doing with people being being ripped off, pisses me off. So I'm happy to expose and question what has gone on here.