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Import Costs

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:36 pm
by jjmartin349571
Hi guys,

I've been having a look online at the cost of importing a car from Japan. Whilst finding out the cost of the car, handling fees at the Japanese end, and shipping costs doesnt seem too difficult, it is proving tricky to work out what costs I'd expect to incur once the car arrived in Southampton. Has anyone on here had any experience of importing cars for themselves? So far I've managed to find out in vague terms from the directgov site that I can expect to pay tax and registration fees, they didn't make it much more specific than that though... :roll: the car would be over 10 years old, so I'm guessing I'd need an MOT, and to register the car. I've read conflicting reports of whether or not 10 year old plus cars need any form of examination before they can be registered for UK use however. I also can't find any mention of what tax I'd be paying, is it just VAT or will they kindly whack other forms of duty on there for me?

So many questions :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:26 pm
by Donald
Some info for you bud, from a guy that imported a 180sx (http://www.180sx.co.uk/resources/guides ... rom-japan/):
Parties involved

* Auction house: Produces report sheets and grades vehicles.
* Exporter in Japan: Publishes report sheets on web. Provides customers with estimated guide prices, and assists with explanation of auction report sheets.
Accepts bids from customers, inspects vehicles at auction, and if in satisfactory condition, bids up to the customer’s maximum bid. where successful, purchases car and arranges for it to be shipped to the UK.
* Customs agent: Pays customs charges and bills customer. Arranges clearance from port. Advises customer on when and where to collect their car
* Shipping company: Transports car from port in Japan to port in UK. Collects shipping cost from customer (as bankers draft) when they collect their car from the UK port.
* HMRC (Customs): Charges just under 30% of shipped cost of the car as import tax and VAT. Issues form 386 to customer to show that tax has been paid.
* Garage: Tests car and produces MOT pass certificate
* DVLA: Provides registration application form V55. On receipt of all required documents showing car has been legally imported from Japan, taxes paid, and MOT’d, issues registration certificate. Charges £50 plus the cost of first year road tax (£180) for this.

Timeline

01-Oct Send deposit
05-Oct Deposit received, start browsing
11-Oct Place first bid at mid-point of estimated range. Does not reach reserve.
15-Oct Place two more bids, one at top of estimated range.
16-Oct One car was rusty, so the agent did not bid. The other car was won, at £100 above my bid.
16-Oct Send balance of payment
11-Nov Car leaves Japan on ship, bound for Southampton
26-Dec Ship arrives in Southampton. Port is closed for Christmas.
27-Dec Ring around and arrange insurance.
28-Dec I arrive in Southampton by train, and leave in my new car.
Buy new battery. Wire up rear foglight
Order form V55 from DVLA website (needed to apply to register car)
23-Jan Car passes MOT with no issues.
25-Jan Send V55 & registration documents to DVLA
30-Jan Receive rejection from DVLA. Require Japanese de-reg form, Customs 386 tax receipt, and proof of speedo conversion to MPH
31-Jan Ask exporter and customs agent about missing documents
06-Feb Receive de-registration form from customs agent, who had filed it by mistake
11-Feb Receive customs form 386 from HMRC
Buy speedo converter from eBay
12-Feb Send documents to DVLA again, together with receipt for speedo converter
18-Feb Receive Registration Certificate from DVLA. Obtain numberplates from Halfords. Take car out for a drive with girlfriend.
28-Feb Receive V5 from DVLA.

Total time taken: 4 months, 18 days.

I lost 18 days due to the document issue, which I could have saved had I known at the start which documents I required for registration.
I spent 26 days getting the car ready for MOT, because I wanted to do it myself, was doing it in my spare time, and am no expert. If you arranged in advance to take the car straight from the port to a garage to prepare and MOT it, you could probably avoid most of this delay.

Thus the ‘best case’ time is about three months, with the major time-consuming activities being:
2 weeks - sending deposit and choosing car
4 weeks - car getting to port and waiting for ship
6 weeks - shipping
1 week - registration with DVLA
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Total: 13 weeks

Costs

£60 international bank transfer fees (£30 each for deposit and balance)
£3,000 car (includes exporter commission)
£400 shipping
£1,000 import tax
£75 Customs agent fee
£50 Mot
£20 speedo converter
£230 Registration and road tax
£25 number plates
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£4,860 Total On The Road car cost

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:49 pm
by jjmartin349571
That's awesome mate, + rep for you :) I'm not looking to bid as I've seen a few places that are selling cars at a price which includes getting them to the port for shipping & sorting the deregistration - seems a cheaper way to go about it as most auction houses set an additional $500 FOB charge on top of the vehicle price. Now just need to find someone who'll ship a car as cheap as in the above post, I've been quoted £900 to Southampton!! And talk the girlfriend around to my way of thinking :twisted:

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:57 pm
by spudep91
U should get it cheaper shiped to england. we imported a few starlets a scobbys to dublin port. its works out about 32 percent of the cost of car and shipping. then we payed 90 euro for handling few to take of the boat. then when got back to north cost of mot tax and reg was bout 90 sterling

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:11 pm
by jjmartin349571
Who did you use to ship the vehicle mate? I've never imported a car before so wouldn't know who is the cheapest. If there's a company you could recommend then I could grab a quote from them as a starting point, there's a car I really want to get over and I've just sold the idea to my girlfriend so I'm keen to try and get something sorted before she changes her mind :lol:

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:40 pm
by spudep91
ask ur seller how much could he c&f ur car to southhampton for. means he will put it on bout for u. so u will pay for car and shipping in 1 go to the seller. then when he comes back with eg 3000 usd they usaly take dollars. bargine them down. start mybe 2400 usd. alway get good chunch off

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:48 pm
by spudep91
what car u want to import. shipping cost depends on size of car

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:47 pm
by ziyaan
i looked at importing an r33 a while ago, it seemed cheaper at the time to buy from here

do your homework before you go ahead,
some cars i know of people importing have arrived damaged

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:23 pm
by jjmartin349571
Yeah I've sent a request of C&F price, might ask about shipping insurance too. I know the cubic metre size of the car so I've an idea of what to pay.

As for the cost of buying here, the car isn't available here and I've never seen one in the UK in all the months I've been searching. It's a secret as to what it is though :P might not even buy it depending on cost... The average FOB cost is low enough that I'd buy without a second thought over here though.

Guess I'll just have to hang in for a reply!

Quick question though, if it was a choice between a parking pole and body kit what would you guys choose? Can't make my mind up :?

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:27 pm
by Donald
Depends on the kit. A pole is a pole, so you know what you're getting. Some kits are nice, some are not nice.