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4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:48 pm
by Drax
most likely doing an ABS delete when the smurf comes out shortly so need a few bits, this is one of them.

thank you

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:46 pm
by vanzep
seem to remember merlin saying he used 5th gen one on his 4th gen track lude as it gave 12 percent more stopping power :)
check with him first but prob 5th gen one is best for you

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:12 pm
by Drax
12%... :lol: very precise. i will cheers matey

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:40 am
by vanzep
indeed :)
just check with him first as it has been many years since we worked on his track lude but i definately remember swapping out the brake servo and mc ;)

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 11:51 am
by vanzep
Had a quick look at his lude profile and it was a 4th gen with ABS servo and mc he swapped in - his lude was originally non abs. you already have abs mc in place so want to keep it or get the same if it needs replaced. Non abs mc is 15/16" whereas the abs mc is 1" and that is where the 12% figure comes from ;)
hope this info is of use

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:16 pm
by Drax
if i can keep the abs mc i will, depends what needs swapping to blank the abs unit & pipes - im honestly not sure

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:46 pm
by Vtecmec
Remove this:

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Replace with this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123378323970

You'll have to rework the lines locally at the valve.

You can just see it at the back of the engine bay here on the right:

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That's it really.

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:28 pm
by Drax
ah ha!! brill thanks Vtecmec 8) i may ask for closer pics of your bay area if possible once the engine is out

also, is that valve a stock item in a non-abs 4g?

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:56 pm
by Vtecmec
I think the valve is a stock Accord one. I think the 4g uses something different and that is no longer available, this was effectively the only option from memory.

4g (or 5g if they are the same) non-abs master cylinder

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:29 pm
by 4thgenphil
Carful on the prop valve, most Honda ones are different.