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4th gen torque converter issue

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:57 pm
by Dollywobbler
Hi folks

My new Prelude goes very nicely - I've covered about 500 miles in it since I bought it on Tuesday. However, there does seem to be a torque converter issue when cold. It tries locking up just past 50mph, as it should, but it really seems to struggle to engage and the revs go up and down as it struggles to lock up. It usually only does this within a few miles of home, and once it has played up, it'll be fine for the rest of the day (which twice has meant covering 200 miles, including a lot of cross-country driving). Flooring the throttle can help force it to engage.

Problem two is that when you're slowing down, and then go back onto the throttle, there's a bit of a thump - it feels as if the transmission has disengaged and is then cutting back in again. Not sure if this is normal or related to the above.

The car did have a fluid change before I bought it, as the previous owner had been having some gear selection issues. The main gears are absolutely fine and changes are swift. I've no idea if the fluid change was done as per the tech bulletin or not, but the fluid does seem clean.

Any thoughts?

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:16 pm
by mercutio
solenoids on the way out?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 12:04 pm
by Dollywobbler
Sounds possible. I've seen some posts about cleaning the filters out for the solenoids. Is this easy to do?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:35 pm
by mercutio
yes very

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:17 pm
by Dollywobbler
Pulled the solenoids off today, but they're certainly not clogged up. Lovely fresh fluid everywhere, which is nice.

Given that it seems to slightly lose drive on braking (with a bit of a rev blip before the drive is taken up again), I suspect the torque converter itself is the problem. I s'pose eventually, it might be worth changing the 'box/converter but until then, I'll just keep using it. Once everything has warmed up, it seems to behave much better.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:55 pm
by jjmartin349571
For what it's worth I'll potentially have a good auto box and torque converter available in the next month or so, I have an automatic BB4 that I'm currently taking a view on either breaking or converting to manual. The car drives fine as it is, it's just a bit crusty in places :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:25 am
by mart609
both my auto honda accords do this

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:52 pm
by Dollywobbler
mart609 wrote:both my auto honda accords do this
That's reassuring. I did wonder if there was a temp sensor that tells the converter lock-up not to function until fully warm or something, and that makes it a bit fluffy. I'll stick to 'ignore' then!

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:56 am
by mart609
Yep only happens when its cold too.
No issues once the cars warmed up a bit