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Type S head onto my H22a

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:02 pm
by mills
I've got a full Type S engine from the Lude I broke, and the plan is to strip the head and transplant it into my SiR. If all goes to plan, I will pretty much have myself an SiR S-Spec :twisted:

Can I expect to see any gains from just swapping the head :?: or will I have to look into getting a re-map :?:

Also looking forward to opening up the Type S lump, as theres a chance there are some forged parts in there. the guy I bought the Lude off didn't know too many details, but he was told the engine was forged :?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:20 pm
by NafemanNathan
Ideally you want a remap. It'd be worth considering an ATR inlet manifold before a tune as well.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:29 pm
by 4thgenphil
for the gains vs cost i would consider just moving the cams across!

Dibs on the forged bits :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:29 pm
by nitin_s1
Yea swap the head, remap and then have a S-Spec.. :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:32 pm
by 4thgenphil
nitin_s1 wrote:Yea swap the head, remap and then have a S-Spec.. :twisted: :twisted:
why swap the head?

Also what comp does your car have? the only reason i can see to swap the heads over is for a piston swap :twisted:

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:37 pm
by nitin_s1
He has a Black top H22A - 10.6:1

Type-S/S-Spec - 11.0:1

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:37 pm
by nitin_s1
Actually, you are right. It's the pistons you want.

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:41 pm
by mills
NafemanNathan wrote:Ideally you want a remap. It'd be worth considering an ATR inlet manifold before a tune as well.

well ive got the full engine, including the Type S IM, which has the larger throttle body etc ;)

would I have to look at a different ECU for a remap :?:
4thgenphil wrote:for the gains vs cost i would consider just moving the cams across!

Dibs on the forged bits :lol:
but the Type S head had a mild port and polish ;) is it not worth putting it on :?:

Dibs granted ;) £££££££ :twisted: :lol: do you still want the rear ARB :?:
nitin_s1 wrote:Yea swap the head, remap and then have a S-Spec.. :twisted: :twisted:
8-)

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:43 pm
by mills
4thgenphil wrote:why swap the head?

Also what comp does your car have? the only reason i can see to swap the heads over is for a piston swap :twisted:
nitin_s1 wrote:Actually, you are right. It's the pistons you want.

do you need to do any work to the bottom end if you change the pistons :?:

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:43 pm
by bennyboy
mills wrote: would I have to look at a different ECU for a remap :?:
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Ideally you'd probably want to go my route - P28 and Hondata S300 to get the best out of it I'd have thought.