Lude Generation

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-p ... 13377.html

Wouldn't even bother. Asbestos roof.

Dammit!
Can get a whole mass of stuff for horses, for peanuts!

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-p ... 73512.html

Won't get a car through those doors though

Donald wrote:Wouldn't even bother. Asbestos roof.

Asbestos concrete sheets. There's loads of it all over the place and nothing wrong with it - literally tens of thousands of agricultural and industrial units sheeted in that stuff.
I've managed buildings built of that stuff. If it's undisturbed it's completely safe and even when that stuff gets broken up, it's not really any risk at all.

In fact, thinking about it the 2 council garages I rent at the moment have got that on the roof, so no difference anyway

Damn that's cheap.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-p ... 91581.html

I can't think what is so appealing about this one...

rob quilter wrote:Damn that's cheap.

EDIT: I guess you mean the farm Yep, that seems staggeringly cheap.


That storage unit I posted up first is cheap for round here though, too.
I've been looking off and on for a couple of years to try and find something nearby, with power, where where I can get all my cars together so I can actually work on them. Not seen anything even half reasonably priced in all that time

wurlycorner wrote:

Donald wrote:Wouldn't even bother. Asbestos roof.

Asbestos concrete sheets. There's loads of it all over the place and nothing wrong with it ... even when that stuff gets broken up, it's not really any risk at all.

Thanks to EU directives since last year there is a higher level of responsibility and so costs could fall on your lap if it does become an issue. All contract depending of course.

Also around 5k deaths per year from asbestos related conditions isn't dangerous at all... that's only more deaths than any one of these cancers: anal, bladder, bone sarcoma, brain tumour, cervical, Hodgkin lymphoma (and non), kidney, laryngeal, leukaemia, liver, myeloma, oral, ovarian, skin, testicular, thyroid, uterine, vaginal, vulval. I've probably missed some but for good measure consider how much press breast cancer gets, the mortality figure is only double that of asbestos related illnesses

But yeah like you say, not too harmful if undisturbed.

Donald wrote: Also around 5k deaths per year from asbestos related conditions isn't dangerous at all...

Absolutely, asbestos is very nasty dangerous stuff. But nearly all those deaths are from industrial level exposure and there are many different types of asbestos in varying degrees of containment, which as a result pose varying degrees of harm.

Don't get me wrong - it's not like I'd want to build anything out of it and I wouldn't go playing around with those sheets for a laugh, but seriously the risk of me being harmed by that roof is hugely less than the risk of me getting run over in the street or catching lung cancer from 15 years of clubbing in smoke filled night clubs before smoking was banned...

EDIT:
Asbestos cement is white asbestos and maintenance/even removal of it isn't licensed - it's that's low risk in the scheme of things. But don't just take my word for it: http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/essentials/cement.htm

wurlycorner wrote:But nearly all those deaths are from industrial level exposure and there are many different types of asbestos in varying degrees of containment, which as a result pose varying degrees of harm.

Don't get me wrong - it's not like I'd want to build anything out of it and I wouldn't go playing around with those sheets for a laugh, but seriously the risk of me being harmed by that roof is hugely less than the risk of me getting run over in the street or catching lung cancer from 15 years of clubbing in smoke filled night clubs before smoking was banned...

Gonna need to see some citations here. I'll show you my statistically backed source if you show me yours. That's sort of like saying nearly all road traffic deaths are from vehicle level exposure and there are many different types of cars in varying degrees of motion, which as a result pose varying degrees of harm.

Agreed though that the majority are work-place related, but your point about your level of risk is flawed at best because I'm sure if you compare you crossing the road once and you handling asbestos once, I wonder what the level of incidence is there? Also what sort of road is it, where is it, what is the speed limit. What if a construction worker that has been around asbestos likes to visit smokey clubs and crosses a busy road on the way home? Pick a better example next time







PS. Asbestos related deaths are on the increase and last year 2.7 times more people died from them than road casualties.