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EL Dials doing my head in!!!!
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:54 pm
by Dbo
took jdm pre-facelift dash loom out and fitted project x dash loom in

connected ukdm facelift manuel el dials.
test run down the road

all worked apart from speedo needle didnt light up, no vtec in any gear and eml light came on
connected jdm manuel el dials and on test drive all worked but no vtec in any gear
took out project x dash loom and fitted ukdm bb1 facelift dash loom

ukdm facelift manuel el dials! they lit up really dim untill we removed the dimmer control unit and all lit super bright

indicators were inverse and not working so connected the extra earth on the passenger side and indicators worked right

test drive 3, speedo needle out and no vtec in any gear
jdm maneul el dials fitted to this loom all worked but no vtec in any gear

and speedo in kmh

tried to splice in sumopower kph to mph convertor and el clocks would not light up

all seemed to work but no el illumination and no bloody vtec in any gear
seems like i have no connection from vss to clocks to tell ecu when to fire vtec
anybody HELP please

getting real pissed off now

got 3 different looms and 2 different el sets and none are giving me bloody vtec

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:35 pm
by wurlycorner

Now I know why I haven't tried fitting any of my 3 sets of el dials into either of my cars yet... (think I've had the first set for 5 years, too!)
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:59 pm
by Dbo
the ukdm el dials do have a mph converter in them so if you are fitting these to a pre-facelift ukdm it would be a piece of body lemonade
only problem i have is trying to fit jobby ukdm rubbish to a jdm

looms are just too different
no info anywhere on el clocks or any info on how to wire in a kph to mph converter
somebody must have done this

and waking round with the knowledge in their head but just not willing to share the how too
if i cant resolve this will have to go back to analogue dials and then take great delight in smashing the jobby out of the el dials with a drokking big hammer

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:29 am
by big damo
They will be working tomorrow and so will the vtec,

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:31 am
by wurlycorner
I've found how-to's on fitting jdm and ukdm el dials into jdm cars before now, on puk.
(what I hadn't found was a how-to on fitting either type of cluster to a ukdm, so it was no good to me!

)
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:48 am
by wurlycorner
google.com/m?q=install+el+dials+prelude&client=ms-opera-mobile&channel=new
Top hit is this very forum;
http://www.ludegeneration.co.uk/topic890.html
There's also a PUK link further down (not the one I remember, but might be the right one)
preludeuk.forumup.com/about14350-30.html
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:49 am
by bristol_bb4
I did a how to on fitting a km-mph converter, ill dig it out when I get home
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:06 am
by indigolemon
@Dbo - No VTEC at all means a break in the speed sensor feed
*before* the ECU, what happens after (the feed to the clocks) has no bearing on how the ECU sees things.
wurlycorner wrote:I've found how-to's on fitting jdm and ukdm el dials into jdm cars before now, on puk.
(what I hadn't found was a how-to on fitting either type of cluster to a ukdm, so it was no good to me!

)
UKDM pre to UKDM post -
http://www.ludegeneration.co.uk/wiki/in ... celift_car
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:28 pm
by wurlycorner
Ok, so I think the combinations I have are...
1x JDM dash loom
1x set of JDM dials (with invertor)
2x set of UKDM dials (with invertors)

But I may be wrong and the dash loom might have come out of a UKDM after all

I forget... I'll have to re-check through old PUK PM's and see if I can work it out!
And what I have to put them in are;
1x prefacelift JDM
1x prefacelift UKDM
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:44 pm
by indigolemon
I prefacelift UKDM to postfacelift UKDM without issues. Swapping JDM -> UKDM and vice versa can be tricky due to missing SRS/ABS lights etc.