Shell v power

[RattyMcClelland]

No v-power in leicester at all. Used momentum 99 instead.

[judderod]

Also, Preludes are not E10 compatible.


Found this just now from Honda themselves (http://engines.honda.com/parts-and-supp ... mendations):

Using fuels with percentages of ethanol or methanol higher than 10% (E10) will cause starting and/or performance problems. It can also damage metal, rubber, and plastic fuel system components that are not covered under the Distributor’s Limited Warranty.

Ethanol has 28% less energy density than gasoline, so it reduces fuel efficiency. Ethanol contains less energy value than petrol. In theory, some loss of power and fuel economy (possibly 2-3%) may occur when using E10 fuel.

Ethanol is an excellent solvent, drying agent and cleanser. It will clean or dissolve some parts of, and deposits in, fuel storage and fuel delivery systems, including some fuel tank materials. The dissolved material can clog filters or pass through and leave deposits on fuel injectors, fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulators, carburetor jets, intake tracts, valves, and valve guides.

In addition, ethanol in the gasoline attracts water. Initially it mixes with the ethanol, but at higher concentrations it separates and settles to the lowest point, which leads to corrosion and starting and running problems. The lower the fuel level in the tank, the more likely you will experience water contamination.

E85 is an alternative fuel. It is not gasoline. It is made by combining 85% ethanol with 15% gasoline. Honda engines are not currently certified or designed to run on E85 or any other alternative fuel.

The only Honda vehicles that are ethanol fuel compliant up to E10 are:

Accord 2003 onwards
Accord Euro 2003 onwards
City 2009 onwards
Civic Range 2004 onwards
CR-V 2003 onwards
CR-Z 2011 onwards
Insight 2004 onwards
Integra 2004 onwards
Jazz 2004 onwards
Legend 2007 onwards
MDX 2003 onwards
Odyssey 2004 onwards
S2000 2004 onwards

But it also says

Honda engines are designed for good performance and efficient operation using gasoline containing from 0 to 10% ethanol.

So we're good right?

[Donald]

No.

The only Honda vehicles that are ethanol fuel compliant up to E10 are:

Accord 2003 onwards
Accord Euro 2003 onwards
City 2009 onwards
Civic Range 2004 onwards
CR-V 2003 onwards
CR-Z 2011 onwards
Insight 2004 onwards
Integra 2004 onwards
Jazz 2004 onwards
Legend 2007 onwards
MDX 2003 onwards
Odyssey 2004 onwards
S2000 2004 onwards

http://www.honda.com.au/cars_for-owners_ethanol.aspx

We fall in the 0% category of Honda engines that can run on 0 to 10% ethanol.

[andyconnolly]

Is it every brand of petrol ?
I cant get V-Power here, nearest ones paisley for me and not driving there everytime i need fuel....Ive been using momentum and it seems fine.

[jjmartin349571]

Ok, I've had a quick read online and apparently not all petrol will be to E10 standard. Also, E10 pumps will be clearly labelled as being E10 petrol and carry a warning that not all vehicles are compatible with it. E5 petrol will still be available, mainly being the super unleaded variants.

Source:

http://www.mag-uk.org/en/campaignsdetail/a7099

I run all my cars on super unleaded anyway so should be ok. Don't know what we'll do after 2020 though

[littlefeller]

2020 you realy think your lude wont have bio-degraded by then

[jjmartin349571]

Who knows mate, but it's only 7 years! The lude might not make it but other things might

[LewisH]

On a serious note now... what does it actually matter? 5% more ethanol isnt going to kill a prelude. The most people it will effect is the guys that race there cars on tracks. And even then, you can use race fuel?

[Donald]

Of course it matters

If there was 10% less oxygen in the air how do you think we'd get on breathing?

[judderod]

IMHO E10 won't make any real difference. Stock fuel maps on the prelude are pretty rich anyway, so I doubt it'll go lean at WOT. And for the rest of the time the O2 sensor & ECU will keep the fuel ratios in check. So far as the ethanol eating the seals etc. again I doubt this is going to happen, and hey even if it does it's just a case of renewing the few that exist in the fuel system with newer ones which will almost definitely be compatible.