Putting a type s or accord type r engine in a 4th gen.

[RattyMcClelland]

Good to know. Looking at my ATR manifold and Lude mani the rails are different. Wont be using either though.

[crigal.bb6]

So if i get a full A7 with in let on i can just drop it in and use my loom or do i need a atr loom. This is starting to sound annoying. Mite just get the old h22a. @bristol_bb4 how hard did u find it to fit a a7. List of mods needed to fit if u dont mind mate? Pretty please. Im getting confused now. Easy or ball ache?

[bristol_bb4]

piece of p1ss mate

a7 engine
a7 intake manifold

drop it in ....

now your left with the choice of what you want to do with the injectors,

from what ive read lude and atr injectors use different spray patterns which in turn brings different wiring. you can just swap to using ATR injectors but you'll need to remove the resistor box from the ludes loom and wire in the ATR injectors

alternatively you can use lude injectors in the ATR intake manifold but you'll need a conversion plate made to accommodate them, then your just plug in and go


ecu, you can get an ATR ecu with an obd2 -> obd1 conversion harness or you can do what i did and use that spoon ecu and have an AFC1/2/neo tuned to it which trust me, went well or you can go hondata like ive done


everything else just drops right in

[bristol_bb4]

oh and the egr valves are different, you need to either delete it but keep it plugged in or wire it in to the lude loom

[Drax]

oh and the egr valves are different, you need to either delete it but keep it plugged in or wire it in to the lude loom

ah ha. i am soon to be doing a similar project and will buy a egr delete kit - you say keep it plugged in, do you mean just leave the wiring alone and it wont throw up any errors? or re-wire it?

plus im getting uprated injectors so need to work out how to plumb them in yet

thanks for all the other info people, very useful post this is

[crigal.bb6]

I agree. This is a very useful thread.
Thanks @bristol_bb4 for the inside info mate lol. Thanks people. I like to know what i am letting my self in for before i go ahead with this thats all.
Will atr lump run ok on spoon ecu or do i need a afc?

[bristol_bb4]

i think there will be abit too much fuel but itl run ok, just helps to have the ability to tweak if needs be

[h10ndr]

One more thing... if you try to use an original atr pde ecu it has an ecu immobiliser chip in it...this needs to be bypassed or it wont start in a 4th gen.

[h10ndr]

For all the above reasons thats why I went with the lude intake manifold. Or u could go skunk2...

[crigal.bb6]

Hmmm....skunk sounds more like it. Im going to get sourcing.