4th gen 4WS Suspension/Camber Bolts

[vanzep]

set of very good condition camber adjustment and suspenion bolts.
£20 posted in UK

If you are planning doing any work on rear suspension then these would be a handy spare set of bolts to have they have been lightly refurbed with some silver paint to prevent any rust-wasnt really necessary as they looked fairly new when i took them off. Ive marked out clearly the adjustment notches on the camber bolts and the suspension bolts have their nyloc locking element in place.

someone recently mentioned they had bought a set from Honda at a cost of about £70

[nucleustylzlude]

Are these the ones that most tend to have to cut off when doing a 2WS conversion? I assume reusable on a 2WS subframe? Anyone know?

If so I might take them bud.

[Thebusofwoe]

No they are different between the 2ws and 4ws. The 2ws bolts are alot smaller. I know this because a have a new set of these bolts that i ordered thinking that they will fit the 2ws subframe. But no, they didn't bloody fit!!!
I still had to re buy a set but for the 2ws subframe.

[Merlin]

No they are different between the 2ws and 4ws. The 2ws bolts are alot smaller.

Yup this is because on 4WS cars the rear camber is adjustable so needs the adjuster plate. 2WS cars don't have adjustable rear camber so the bolts don't have the adjuster plate on them.

Edit - The bolts without the adjuster plate should be the 2WS lower arm bolts. Vanzep are the other bolts for the 2WS toe arm?

You cant see the lower arm bolt clearly but the toe arm has an adjuster for the OEM toe arm.

[Thebusofwoe]

Ah yea, Doh . I am definitely not with it tonight

[vanzep]

no idea i took them off 4ws lude a while back beacause they looked nearly new and all others ive ive seen since have all been rusted to the point where you wouldnt be able to see the adjustment marks on them. Im not sure what the non camber bolts are but i can measure them with a set of calipers if needed. I thought they might possibly be for attaching the 4ws system to the subframe. I havent seen any bolts like this on the 2ws lude.

Non camber bolts with locking element are approx M12 x 69mm long. Threaded portion 36mm.

[vanzep]

Are these the ones that most tend to have to cut off when doing a 2WS conversion? I assume reusable on a 2WS subframe? Anyone know?

If so I might take them bud.

I think the bolts that you need are the same ones that i had to cut off - theyre the 2ws camber bolts - like Merlin says theyre not adjustable and they are smaller than the 4ws camber bolts (adjustable)

heres something i cut from my profile on lb
well thats the full set of goodridge brake flexis on and the offside rear lca which defeated us last time and had to be cut out today.
just in case anyone else hits this problem then the subframe to lca bolt for BB4 2ws is Honda part no.90167-SF1-003 and is listed in lings under the 2.3 2ws model. Cost was a whopping £10.22 for this one bolt!
It was too dark to get some pics of the lude fully dropped but will try and get some posted up tomorrow.
Only other issue is a slight chatter on full lock at coasting speed coming from the outer cv joint on the driveshaft i refurbed...oh well cant win em all..will replace that when i do the clutch later in the year.
Pic of lca to subframe bolt:

[nucleustylzlude]

Forgot about this as I've not been on for a few days. Thanks for the info. I need to check what bolts I have with the 2WS conversion first.

Cheers,

Rob

[vanzep]

no worries Rob
as long as you know what your looking for cause im totally confused now as to where these parts go
i dont have 4ws lude to double check against - guess this is why i want rid of these bolts and that bloody massive 4ws ecu that i cant get rid of
ive got a box of suspension bolts here if you can tell me exactly what your after