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The truth about cancer. Please watch and gain knowledge.

Post by lewd lude lover » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:26 pm

I would highly recommend EVERYbody watch this series and do your own research to find your own understanding.

The truth about cancer series 2

i am not posting this to start a war between people who are aware of the benefits of disregarding 'Doctors orders' and those who are not. Watch the series, do your research and comment if you will from an informed standpoint.

This is for information, information that could save yours or a loved ones life, or at least make their final months comfortable and healthy, rather than full of poison and radiation, pale, bitter, vomiting and hairless.

Look into the Cancer act 1939. See the industry for what it is. Profit driven.

Maybe, like me, you have a loved one with cancer right now. Maybe they have also had it before and know what the current treatment model does to a person. Maybe they just want to know about other options than cut it, burn it and poison it.
Maybe you lost someone already.

Please, dont just think ''crazy beardy yogurt weavers and their crazy homeopathic remedies''. Be more open to the facts, rather than opinion. Do your own research.

Thank you for reading, I hope this helps you as much as it has helped me and mine. Since watching this 6 weeks ago I have lost a stone and a half just because I understand the realities of our foodchain. No effort what so ever.
My mother is feeling better than she has in YEARS and is building a strong body to destroy her breast cancer and I HAVE NO FEAR OF CANCER.

You can feel the same if you are willing to take a look.


The series is a purchase item but they show it free every couple weeks. I can send you log in links as we have bought it so you can watch it for free for 12 days. if you would like to know more please PM me.
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Post by mercutio » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:24 pm

can you summarise :lol: they are all over an hour and I have trouble listening to people talk for that long :lol:
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Post by lewd lude lover » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:50 pm

In all seriousness I cant mate. This could well be the difference between your life and your death. It is too important.

Nothing worth doing is easy...

A little info for you to consider...


54% of terminal cancer patients die of malnutrition yet nutrition is not something your oncologist will ever discuss with you.

Stage 4 cancer patient survival after 5 years.... 2%. This is treatment?

Cancer is an obligate glucose metaboliser (it is a sugar feeder and little else) yet every oncologist's office has a big bowl of sweets for patients to eat and your oncologist WILL NOT advise a low sugar diet.

Every chemo drug on the market bears the Black box warning. This means more people die taking this 'medicine' than dont...

86% of oncologists polled would not prescribe radiotherapy or chemo to their family.

Oncologists average wage is about £240,000 a year yet 52% of them feel they are under paid.

Pease take the time merc. It might just change the rest of your life. The presenter has lost most of his family to cancer and has suffered skin cancer himself. He has spent years finding these details and has survived his own cancer. The survival rates for some of the alternative clinics are staggering. Stage 4 pancreatic cancer (a death sentence by standard model treatment) patients on camera after 15 years. Women with breast cancer for 17 years living healthy happy lives. Tumour and all......Dont be an NHS statistic for want of a different viewpoint and a little time.
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Post by mercutio » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:13 pm

ok buddy will try to keep awake :lol:
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Re: The truth about cancer. Please watch and gain knowledge.

Post by Donald » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:32 pm

Sorry to read that news LLL. Truly sad and I wish your mum the best of luck.






Fully aware that you're not starting a war, but I will say be very wary of any statistics or how any of this information is presented. I'm not saying any of it is necessarily wrong (because it does work for some), just please don't be brainwashed by the promise of hope from what are essentially a bunch wannabe druids with nothing but remedies that haven't been subject to clinical trials. Time and time again studies have been conducted on homeopathic remedies, and the overwhelming conclusion is that it is placebo more often than the remedy (unless of course the remedy actually includes something that works from a chemical standpoint - at which time you should just take the properly developed drug). How placebo works in cancer is a more interesting question.

Most of these projected 5 year survival rates neglect to differentiate between those still in treatment and those that have refused treatment, what stage it was diagnosed at, and let's not forget demographics. Finally, you haven't said what the 2% figure relates to. Cancer in general? I don't believe it. Something like stomach cancer diagnosed at stage 4 I could believe.

Box warnings are not indicative that users die more often than not, it just indicates that there can be serious/life-threatening side-effects. A good example is warfarin, my grandmother and my dad's mrs are on warfarin for life, couldn't live without it - but you wouldn't give it to a haemophiliac.

I fully agree that diet is a good starting point, though. A low glucose diet will help, although everything is essentially broken down to glucose anyway. I forget the name now but there is an inhibitor that blocks hexokinase-2 by taking the place glucose, ultimately leading to cell death. If you're going to fight it with as little brutality as possible, I would start looking there. I'm sure any of these treatments prescribed for hyperglycemia will have some slowing effect, at least.

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Post by Darkam » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:46 pm

I've lost my mum beacause of it and if I have an advice ... Don't take any treatment they want you to take, it's only a business for them.

If it happens to me, I would try cannabis oil.

And most of all, keep in mind that there is high chances that cancer will never let you in peace, even if you beat it once.

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Post by lewd lude lover » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:31 pm

Thanks donald. Thank you and I appreciate your addition. I am very well aware of what I am reading and very well aware of how the pharmacutical industry works. I am also very well aware of how the cancer industry feeds into itself.
I believe you are walking very well trodden orthodox ground with some of your statements. This is my opinion and not an attack.

The realities are that cancer treatment as it stands is ineffective against many cancers, causes cancer yet earns trillions of dollars for it.. There are medically tested and approved treatments (that have the double blind placebo testing you need) that are and will never be available to people in the UK unless they take the responsibility for their disease away from medical practitioners who are uninformed and or complicit.

Please tell me why Hypertheric therapy is not available? This is known to make radiotherapy much more targeted and so reduces the amount of radio therapy needed by magnitudes of order. Good for the patient, not good for business. NOT AVAILABLE.

Or IPTLD which basically turns chemo from a hand grenade into a sniper rifle? Oh as a side effect the patient has NO side effects from chemo and only has 10% of the dose. Again, very good for the patient, not so good for business. NOT AVAILABLE.

And mammograms, oh mammograms... The orthadox medical establishment has made it clear that they are ineffective at early detection (by the time they can see a tumour it has maybe a billion cells and is well developed). Also that every mammogram increases the chance of breat cancer by 2% (this is right out of The Lancet) add that between 40 and 50 the effectiveness is less than 52% at finding anything. Why are we still pushing this when thermography (which is a totally non toxic or invasive protocol) is tested and proven as a real early detection protocol? Maybe its because thermography costs a tenth of a mammogram? Maybe not. Seems a bit fishy though doesn't it?

The way cancer is treated is drokking ridiculous. It is exactly the same as cutting off your nose if you have a cold or removing your larynx if you have a sore throat. It is an industry of sorrow and business is booming.

Sorry Donald but I find some of your comments almost more depressing than from someone who is totally uninformed because of its almost automatic rejection of anything not in line with the orthodox. You are training into an industry that protects itself from new attitudes and you are indoctrinated, as you well know. Again that is not an attack but a statement of opinion. Some of your comments are right on the money ;)

As I said. Watch the series and please come back and discuss. As you can see I have not mentioned beads, crystals or chanting once. In fact I have used the same language you have just with a different perspective. This series is not made by druids or homopathic practitioners. It is not made with an agenda one way or the other.

It has been made by a man who has lost most of his family to cancer and more importantly, cancer treatments. He has taken his layman ass out there and found the people who are keeping stage 4 pancreatic patients alive and well for decades. The people who beat their own cancer without one biopsy or treatment of any kind from the medical establishment. The people who are treating patients who have been told to ''go home and put your affairs in order'' by so called Specialists and sending them back to work with a smile.

Results speak for themselves mate, not double blind testing which is paid for by people with an agenda and a vested interest in the most expensive treatments getting approved. You know yourself the industry suppresses cheaper alternatives. Look at the successful development of a male contraceptive. It will never reach market because you only need one injection every few years and it can be reversed with another. While the female alternative sells one pill per day for life. Ask yourself, objectively, if you were president of Pfizer what would you do?

Again I state that this is not about chanting druid beads through your third eye. It is about the treatments that are available that are withheld and treatments that have been universally suppressed due to their efficacy coupled with a very low cost. Most of the practitioners on this series are trained MD's who have had enough of killing people. They have all found other less aggressive, more natural ways to treat people and they are all enjoying better results than standard medical protocols. Again, by orders of magnitude.

I wont be commenting on this again. If anyone wants to talk they can PM me and i will happily converse, advise or argue. This is a tool for survival, its your choice to pick it up and use it.


@darkham: Please accept my condolences. This series could help others not go through the same loss. I will send you the password if you want.


ps. 2% 5year is stage 4 patients without recurrance. Basically if you have stage 4 anything they will fry you till you are dead or you have cancer again, regardless of how long you might have lived without ANY treatment. Primary tumours dont often kill people. Most of them would die of something else if left alone.
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Post by Cutz » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:39 pm

Lewd, you make some very interesting statements and it's up to people to draw their own conclusions.

It has been obvious how the pharma-industry has worked for years and I don't really doubt what you're saying.

beacause...as a business model, it's perfect.

such a shame so many people die just so they can turn a healthy profit.
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Post by Donald » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:07 pm

I realise you wont be replying and I could've PMed this, but both sides of an discussion like this should be seen IMO. I know I wont change your views either, just as you wont change mine. It's all good exercise though.





You are more than entitled to an opinion and I'm not about to say your opinion is wrong, only question the information you've repeated as fact.

Citations are needed in order for any sensible debate as I could recite a thousand and one common cold remedies that people claim to work, but don't. I will say though that the wording on the IPTLD homepage presents a good argument, but is flawed in more than one way. As with a lot of these treatments, there are a staggering number of claims with very little evidence, and even less available-to-the-public evidence that supports them. My view? The majority of these treatments are promoted in the US, because they don't legislate against it. I know what the response to that might be, so it's not worth your bothering, but I'm sure you wont close your eyes to the fact that most of these claims are coming from the land of the free where everything can be bought... I'm currently working on something relevant to this area so feel fairly well versed, but I don't want to jobby up your thread any more than I have. But in short, whilst some of your views may hold true in other countries I really do not think it is the case here. I will happily retract any statement if a peer-reviewed evidence-based argument can be produced against it. That is, one that says explicitly that certain treatments have statistics that support it being a valid treatment and not someone citing that x was found to work in y context, so I've applied it to z under the assumption that it will still work, something's happening but I can't prove it, drokk it it works!

I will admit my druid comment was a bit flippant (and not directed at the video I haven't watched), but that is what I class a lot of these people promoting homeopathic treatments (in general) as - telling you to take something because it works in some capacity, but they don't really understand/realise there is already something out there doing the same thing. Take Darkam for example. He has recommended cannabis oil. It does show promise, THC increases ceramide production, which through a pathway results in the depolarisation of the mitchondrial membrane, glucose can't be processed and eventually leads to cell death through starvation. Basically, the pathway behind the munchies. A very similar mechanism to what I posted, a treatment for hyperglycemia. Both result in the exact same end-game, but which one has had millions already spent on development and is available right now? Or at least is well studied and documented enough to be able to modify relatively easily?

lewd lude lover wrote:The people who beat their own cancer without one biopsy or treatment of any kind from the medical establishment.
This is where so many people go wrong or can cherry pick. (This is not me lecturing you on what you already know) People fail to realise each cancer is fairly unique in it's pathogenesis, despite it generally resulting in the same symptoms. Then there are those that are genetically 'protected' for want of a better word, or are just better suited to fighting it. So many factors that go undocumented and unfortunately it's very difficult to go back and determine just how some of these spontaneous recoveries work. It's easy to come up with large numbers of these people in a population of hundreds of millions.

lewd lude lover wrote:Look at the successful development of a male contraceptive. It will never reach market because you only need one injection every few years and it can be reversed with another. While the female alternative sells one pill per day for life. Ask yourself, objectively, if you were president of Pfizer what would you do?
I'm unsure of how up to date you are on this, but it is already in the pipeline. One injection is in the final stage of human testing before going to market, another is due to start/has already started. I think there are several pills that have come along quite far. Let's not forget the condom, which can be obtained free, just like the female pill and has within 1% the same success rate. Although let's be honest........... the pill is better. If I were president of Pfizer I would be chasing a chunk from both markets.

lewd lude lover wrote:I believe you are walking very well trodden orthodox ground with your statements.
I realise that, and I also think there is nothing wrong with following an orthodox route if it is the most logical route. The only orthodox statements I have made (in reference to my previous post) are those that are supported by the scientific community. True, stunning things can be achieved by thinking outside the box, but there are very few plausible ideas like that, and even fewer that someone is going to pay/support you to develop.

lewd lude lover wrote:Sorry Donald but I find your comments more depressing than from someone who is totally uninformed because of its almost automatic rejection of anything not in line with the orthodox. You are training into an industry that protects itself from new attitudes and you are indoctrinated, as you well know.
This I entirely disagree with and regardless of it being an opinion rather than an attack, I find it insulting. We may not be on the same page with regards to what industry I want to be in too. Doctor? No thanks. You are right that there definitely is some level of indoctrination there. Exploring everything that a doctor's education is based on and essentially telling them what they should/shouldn't be doing? That's the kitty.

I think you've gotten the wrong end of the stick. It wasn't automatic rejection because it's not orthodox. It was rejection of the majority of homeopathic treatments because there is very little supporting them, yet. Perhaps I've gotten the wrong end of the stick too, but finding realistic comments from someone with a relevant education more depressing than someone blindly accepting what they've been spoon fed? That is being obtuse and not like you at all.

I do agree that diagnosis and treatment needs a reform, but big pharma holding out? If it's true no one will ever know until we have another Snowden. They would have far too much control over who knows what and who's telling whom if they have really discovered something groundbreaking. I'm not one for conspiracy theories though.

Again I would like to iterate that my comments were not directed at the video, but at homeopathy in general. I would urge anyone to look objectively at both treatments before they flip a coin with healthcare.

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Post by lewd lude lover » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:18 pm

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