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Post by lewd lude lover » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:17 pm

not if you employ a handling company mate. thats the point. they pick it all up, wrap it up and get it sent.
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Post by Ammo » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:24 pm

Which charger do JRSC use? is it there own or is it the "Straight bolt on parts" your paying for?

Pretty sure they could be recreated to mount a supercharger if so

Not cheap mind, but might be less than shipping from the US

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Post by nitin_s1 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:34 pm

lewd lude lover wrote:not if you employ a handling company mate. thats the point. they pick it all up, wrap it up and get it sent.
Looking in to it now! :twisted:

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Post by nucleustylzlude » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:30 am

Ammo wrote:Which charger do JRSC use? is it there own or is it the "Straight bolt on parts" your paying for?

Pretty sure they could be recreated to mount a supercharger if so

Not cheap mind, but might be less than shipping from the US
JR use a supercharger made by Eaton, but it's specifically for there kit, it has the custom rotor flip and specific nose cone (the pulley side part). The nose cones are different for the application, in the ludes case the kit needed a very short nose cone to line the pulley up with the jackshaft system which routes the belts around the shock tower. It's a clever bit of engineering from JR to get the belt around the shock tower to be fair.

But to replicate the kit would, in my mind, be too much work and cost. You could fit a more recent (and efficient) supercharger in many different ways to this engine and spend less.

The newer Eaton's like you see on the JRSC kits for EP3's, etc are a better design. They also have the casings custom made with there logo on. Notice most of the nose cones are longer. If you tried to use one of these for the H22A kit the outlet would overshoot the main area of the intake runners. Not saying there isn't a work around, just means there is more custom work and £££.

It all comes down to money, know how and how far you want to think about custom work to make it work.

There are plenty of chargers out there, Eaton, Magnacharger, Roush, Rotrex, the list goes on. Roots, Centrifugal, twin-screw, lysholm-screw, deep vanes, and many more. So lot's of options to make a system work. Eaton's are just an easy option because you can find each size on a number of scrapped production cars, M45 (Mini Cooper S, some Mercs), M62 (Merc Kompressors), M90 (not many in this country, tons in the US though), M112 (Jag V8 supercharged, Landrover V8 supercharged). Just a few examples.

If I had started again and had more money up front rather than fund mine a little bit along the way, I'd have a custom Roots charger with custom chargecooler lower intake manifold. Replicate the jackshaft system on the JR kit and go from there. It only gets slightly mathematical to work out pulley sizes to decide on the psi you want/need! The rest is very simple template and work that a decent fabricator could do in a short amount of time.

Anyway, waffling on now. Nitin, if you are indeed serious about this, def speak to an intermediate company to arrange shipping. Or maybe even Scott at H-tune could help you out for a fee? 8-)

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Post by Ferdie » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:40 am

nitin_s1 wrote:Only thing is shipping !!! :evil:
So big are the parts not!

and for that kind of money is shipping not a problem :lol:


and you get a complete kit that is plug and play :mrgreen:

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Post by Dbo » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:42 am

you really kick ass :hail: for the dedication you put in ;)

now stop typing and build this beast Rob :lol: we want to see it in the flesh :mrgreen:
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Post by nucleustylzlude » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:59 am

I know, I know - it's taking forever. I'm just doing everything at once and adding more custom work to it. I could have just bolted on the kit I got and got it tuned, but I want the most out of it and do all the other work to the car in 'one' (long) hit. :roll:

And shipping for a kit isn't that bad, my kit all in with shipping and after customs, converted to GBP was around the £1250 mark! :P

That included a very sound seller who got me all new gaskets for the kit from JR (Moss Motors), plus the kit included a Motorvations larger jackshaft pulley for another 3psi (so 9psi standard on my kit), injectors, tuning (but I went a different route) and an additional new OEM Accord pulley for another 3psi (12psi one day!).

I will admit that was cheap for a kit, let alone everything I got from it extra. I've noticed a few sell for more and more now as they become more rare in the US.

But if you want one, I mean really want one, oh and have the money to back the want, be patient and when one pops up on the US forums or US ebay you need to jump on it and get that shipping arranged. My shipping was $200 using Fedex. It was a large heavy box with stacks of little polystyrene 'popcorn' bits filling it up. Then each part individually wrapped in bubble wrap. No problems at all.

It's all about having a seller eager to sort it out.

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Post by nitin_s1 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:35 am

Rob rep!

I've PMd few people on prelude power (the one I trust and are good members)!

If the one is sold then ill just wait till one comes up for sale! :)

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Post by Mudgey » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:52 pm

K20 is the way forward :lol:

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Post by nitin_s1 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:01 pm

Mudgey wrote:K20 is the way forward :lol:
Yes you are right! In the long term (10 years down the line) K20 would be the best option.

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