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Post by indigolemon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:38 pm

GreenyUK wrote:Never heard of that lol is it important? Lol
Apparently not, I've ran without it for years :lol:
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Post by GreenyUK » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:48 pm

:P fantastic that's all I needed to hear lol!
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Post by GreenyUK » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:51 pm

Ok so mr lemon do you have any experience with spoon chips from sleepy. I've got here here which I never got round to fitting like 6 years ago.
Are they worth it? Seem to get mixed results when googling, although most are referring to the copies from eBay. I believe sleepys were quality.
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Post by indigolemon » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:53 pm

The man we need to talk to here is Rob (@nucleustylzlude) - he offers all versions of that map.

From experience I'd say that these chips, if from a reputable source, are well worth it yes :D
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Post by GreenyUK » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:17 pm

Well patently sleepy was the man to see for these he from PUK not sure if he was on here too.

I also am not sure whether my chip is a v1 or v2 bud guess at v1 with it being like 6 years old lol
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Post by nucleustylzlude » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:42 pm

Not ignoring this thread, thanks for the tag Indigo, I got a little confused with someone else PMing me about the same situation of knock sensors and the Spoon map. Just realised it was someone else to GreenyUK above! :roll:

As for the answer, here is what I replied in my PM (slightly edited to make sense now), which is actually your answer... :lol:
nucleustylzlude wrote: Indigolemon pointed me in the direction of your ECU help thread. To be honest the Sleepy chip you have is still a great map. When his chip burner broke a few years back I picked up where he left using a fellow forums original Spoon ECU which had the V2 chip that I bang on about in my for sale thread. For your information, Sleepy used to sell the V1 chip, and before that was called Darfsport chip (also a V1 chip), from the days of Honda Revolutions / Evolutions. Been around the Honda scene for a while now. :wink:

I'd say stick with your Sleepy chip to save on some money, until recently the only difference I could check with my programs were parameters, which highlights the V1 chip has approx a 8.5k rev limit over the V2's approx 8k rev limit. Some prefer the higher rev but I'll be honest the car doesn't make anymore power in that range unless you have a built head. The power tails of before that.

That was all until recently, where I had some chap on here test out a V1, V2, V3. There are 4 versions that I have manage to get my hands on, there might be more??? The V3 was the worst, still made gains but alot lower than the V1 & V2. The V1 & 2 were close, but the V2 made like a few decimels more peak bhp & torque, but it was the fact that the increases were better on the V2 from earlier on in the rev range would suggest it should accelerate quicker. That's my preferred chip of choice and is what I suggest to people. They're only £20, but just fit the one you have if you don't want to buy another. You could always swap them around depending on what you prefer, or check them yourself on a dyno session if you want to.

So back to the issue of the knock sensor. I'll be honest, it's been a while since I opened a chip up in my Crome P13 Plugin, I can't remember seeing a tick box for disabling the knock sensor. I could be wrong though - just never had the request. I'll have a look and get back to you. It'll be tomorrow night as I'm out tonight.


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Post by GreenyUK » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:59 pm

Hey up dude. Small world with some one else in the same situation lol.

Thank you for your reply it's very helpful! I will indeed stick with this chip and give it ago. At only £20 for the v2 which for price/gain is incredible price, can always swap over in the future.

I didn't realise you might be able to turn off the signal within the chips programming, this would be great.
For now I can try and make a loom (wire) from the sensor to the Ecu.
If this does not work I can always buy the v2 from you if you can indeed un tick the knock sensor box. :D

I'm i bit well heaven heavy handed for desoldering/soldering the internals of an Ecu :lol: I am unsure if I could trust a local tv repair shop either. Is it simple for a shop to do?

Cheers once again.
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