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Post by Shiny » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:53 pm

I had my geo done on the old Lude and after it was scary. I took it back and they said it was due to the bushes on the longish arms that go from the bottom of the wheel to about a foot apart under the middle of the car (don't know what they are called).

Took it to another garage I know and they showed me that the toe on the left rear wheel was visually out, so it pulled to the left sharply when I hit a bump.

Original garaged refused to redo the geo until the bushes were replaced, so I was in a catch 22. Got the bushes done (they had to oxy acet it to get them off) and then back to geo place where surprisingly (not) the rear toe was way off. They then did a proper job and all was good.

Was a well renowned 4 wheel optical alignment specialist in Swindon, so mistakes do happen.
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Post by mercutio » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:43 pm

the 2ws lower arm has an offset washer so there is adjustability in the 2ws lower arm but it still only does toe
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Post by honda-hardy » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:02 pm

mercutio wrote:the 2ws lower arm has an offset washer so there is adjustability in the 2ws lower arm but it still only does toe
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Post by bucks420 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:32 pm

better late than never but heres a pic of the alignment sheet, let me know what you think :) .
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included a pic of the manual for the 4ws camber adjustment
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Post by Donald » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:47 pm

bucks420 wrote:better late than never but heres a pic of the alignment sheet, let me know what you think :) .
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I'm no geologist but those numbers seem really far apart from each other... shouldn't they all be quite similar? To me having for example the front left wheel number double the front right just doesn't make sense. And the amount it's been adjusted by seems like they kind of didn't do a lot? I have no idea about these things though!

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Post by bucks420 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:58 pm

I don't really have a clue about the geo but after looking at it id agree, think I might do what shiny and others suggested and get it done again elsewhere to try and rule that out. Anyone else have any thoughts on the print out?

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Post by 4thgenphil » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:03 pm

doenst look that bad tbh, not sure if the toe on a lude is meant to be neutral, i will sing PAWs praises he did a cracking job on mine, really secure back end, a little to much for my liking!
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Post by bucks420 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:22 pm

So you don't think its out enough to give the problems im getting then? wish PAW was a bit closer :( , would have gone there to start with knowing whatever he did it would be sorted.
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Post by Merlin » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:53 pm

Your final numbers look OK compared to my last alignment, although front camber is quite different. I don't think that printout shows front caster but off caster causes the car to wander.

My alignment was:

Front
camber Left -1.49 Right -1.40
Toe Left -0.01 Right -0.01

Rear
camber Left -2.06 Right -1.41
Toe Left 0.07 Right 0.08
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Post by Darf » Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:49 pm

As soon as I read your first post I was going to say its your rear toe out, but honda-hardy already beat me to it. Had the same myself after the 2ws conversion.
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