Type S head onto my H22a

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:53 pm

mills wrote:
craig_jdm wrote:Can you not just use the whole engine what gearbox does the s - spec use

NafemanNathan wrote:I assumed there was a reason he can't just drop the whole engine in? Bottom end issues or something

cant use the whole engine because of the ATTS, it bolts onto the block, so i'd have to have a blanking plate slapped on there. I believe the s-spec has an M2Z4 gearbox. I have an M2T4 which apparently has the same ratios

as far as I know, the whole engine was sound and pulled well.

Yeah can't the ATTS be removed and blanked off like Phil suggested?

mills · Post by **mills** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:58 pm

4thgenphil wrote:serios question, have you considered using the whole motor and blanking off the atts crap?

the type s head will give minimal gains for the £££ it'll cost to swap the head, imo its a bit of a waste

I did consider that 1st, but I thought it would be less work to swap the heads rather than a full engine swap. it shouldn't cost me too much to have the work done. my cousin in law is a Honda mechanic so he will be doing this for me. the expensive part is gonna be changing other things while the head is off, ie cambelt etc. but again, will get whatever I need, genuine Honda parts, at cost

4thgenphil wrote:
mills wrote: Dibs granted £££££££ do you still want the rear ARB

yes i do, i did phone last time i went past but it went straight to the answer phone

that's means theres a chance I was in aswell, because I get quite poor reception at home

let me know next time you're about bud

mills · Post by **mills** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:02 pm

NafemanNathan wrote:
mills wrote:
craig_jdm wrote:Can you not just use the whole engine what gearbox does the s - spec use

NafemanNathan wrote:I assumed there was a reason he can't just drop the whole engine in? Bottom end issues or something

cant use the whole engine because of the ATTS, it bolts onto the block, so i'd have to have a blanking plate slapped on there. I believe the s-spec has an M2Z4 gearbox. I have an M2T4 which apparently has the same ratios

as far as I know, the whole engine was sound and pulled well.

Yeah can't the ATTS be removed and blanked off like Phil suggested?

craig_jdm · Post by **craig_jdm** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:08 pm

A full engine swap would be way easier than swapping heads over pluss you will get those nice 11:1 pistons

and timing belt etc can be done on the type s engine before it goes ingetting the blanking plate maybe your only problem

mills · Post by **mills** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:17 pm

craig_jdm wrote:A full engine swap would be way easier than swapping heads over pluss you will get those nice 11:1 pistons and timing belt etc can be done on the type s engine before it goes ingetting the blanking plate maybe your only problem

i'd have no idea where to get a blanking plate from, or if there is even someone who makes them

really don't fancy pulling my engine tbh, but couldn't I also swap the pistons over while the head is off

craig_jdm · Post by **craig_jdm** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:22 pm

Yeh you can you have to go in via the sump to get the pistons out though so sump off and reseal etc I wonder what is forged??

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:28 pm

mills wrote:
NafemanNathan wrote:
mills wrote:
craig_jdm wrote:Can you not just use the whole engine what gearbox does the s - spec use

NafemanNathan wrote:I assumed there was a reason he can't just drop the whole engine in? Bottom end issues or something

cant use the whole engine because of the ATTS, it bolts onto the block, so i'd have to have a blanking plate slapped on there. I believe the s-spec has an M2Z4 gearbox. I have an M2T4 which apparently has the same ratios

as far as I know, the whole engine was sound and pulled well.

Yeah can't the ATTS be removed and blanked off like Phil suggested?

Yeah, that was a question as to whether or not you'd consider doing it or not

I don't even know what the ATTS unit looks like, so I can suggest how easy it'd be to make a profile up to cap it. I'm sure @RattyMcClelland or @Lewd Lude Lover could maybe shed some light

mills · Post by **mills** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:28 pm

craig_jdm wrote:Yeh you can you have to go in via the sump to get the pistons out though so sump off and reseal etc I wonder what is forged??

this sounds like a good idea anyway

I can see if there is any crap in there and give it a good clean out.

looking forward to seeing what is actually forged, if anything is actually forged

nitin_s1 · Post by **nitin_s1** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:33 pm

mills · Post by **mills** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:37 pm

NafemanNathan wrote:Yeah, that was a question as to whether or not you'd consider doing it or not

I don't even know what the ATTS unit looks like, so I can suggest how easy it'd be to make a profile up to cap it. I'm sure @RattyMcClelland or @lewd lude lover could maybe shed some light

sorry dude, didn't realise id answered the question after you asked it

mills wrote:
4thgenphil wrote:serios question, have you considered using the whole motor and blanking off the atts crap?

the type s head will give minimal gains for the £££ it'll cost to swap the head, imo its a bit of a waste
I did consider that 1st, but I thought it would be less work to swap the heads rather than a full engine swap. it shouldn't cost me too much to have the work done. my cousin in law is a Honda mechanic so he will be doing this for me. the expensive part is gonna be changing other things while the head is off, ie cambelt etc. but again, will get whatever I need, genuine Honda parts, at cost