Friendly Mr honda-hardy member !

[stefan]

Wow . I can see, what most bother you all guys, is i call Mr honda-hardy "racist" .
Can you be that good and show me where

That is nationality discrimination or what ?

that is the question , i never call no one "racist"

For me that was discrimination

this telling us, how i'm feeling, again i never call no one "racist"

Let's talk little bit about difference between "racism" and "discrimination"

I think the phrase used was "national discrimination". If that's not an accusation of racism then I don't know what is

Let me tell you

"racism" is the part of "discrimination" (not other way) but it's much worse.
-Racism strict definition of racial discrimination- ONLY !!!!!!!!!!
Now, what the "human racial" is ? We have 9 human racial on the world
1.Caucasoid,
2.African,
3.Asian,
4.Australian,
5.Malaysian,
6.Indian,
7.American,
8.Polynesian,
9.mikronezyjska.

But: In 1812 Georges Cuvier has divided people into three race as a criterion using only the color of the skin.

variant White,
variety of black,
yellow variety.

Now something about "discimination".
Discrimination - a form of undue marginalization (social exclusion), manifested by treating a person less favorably than another in a comparable situation because of some characteristic, eg. A period of development, disability, sexual orientation, gender, religion, belief, nationality or race .

So we can see, we can discriminate people on many reasons


Here is little example :

so... Are You interested to selling this badge? Tell me please, what is the final price, which will be good for You? I'm really interested to buy. Thank You.

I get no answer at all.

on next pouple days

Hi,
I have just seen your thread on this forum & you have the exact badge I know my boyfriend is searching for & has been for some time, it is his birthday coming up & it would be a wonderful surprise for him if I could give him this as a gift.
I would be happy to offer £70 but would really appreciate a reply ASAP either way as I would need it as close to next Wednesday as possible.
Many Thanks
Kate

He replied in few hours

Hi. Thanks for your interest. I will sell the badge for £70. Please bear in mind it is a used item. Have you seen the pictures? If you are happy to proceed, my PayPal address is sam@hardy********.co.uk
Please send your full postage details including full name and I will send it to you next day delivery. Best regards sam

and i don't beleve it he forgot about my message, also his never came back to this topic

so... Are You interested to selling this badge? Tell me please, what is the final price, which will be good for You? I'm really interested to buy. Thank You.

So please guys stop telling me how good and helpful he is because on my experience he not been helpful. I started conversation with him on topic "Need Motegi Badge" and he never came back to me in the topic and in a message as well. He ignored me and sold badge for someone else.
And on my point of view only reason why that happened, is because i have polish nick stefan. That why i felt discriminated
He seen it I was desperate and he knew I was ready pay 80 quid for it , But he sold badge for 70 quid for Kate.

If you can believe guys, that someone who:

How much are these badges worth?

okay, i have been offered £20 via pm. however, i have seen these go for up to £80 on eBay.

sells something cheaper to person whose was registered in the forum on the same day, when asked about item, just becouse he forgot about another desperate member, that's fine. I can't beleve.

Also, stops telling me that i call him "racist" because i'll never do that !!!!!!!!!!

If you are racist you'll have to discriminate, but if you'll discriminate people, you don't have to be a racist .


I don't know him, i don't know, did he's a racist?!


Last what i want to say Mr honda-hardy, I'm sorry I accused you remove my post. I was frustrated it that happen, and because i all ready had bad experience (for me) with you , I did not think about any other solutions. I was sure that you deleted my post. So i'm sorry again.
How i said before, if not this situation, I would never wear this topic. But is too late now.
Any way.
This is your decision for who you sell your items that true, and you didn't have to sell your badge to me that true as well.
But the way you did it, will always make me feel worse.

[Shiny]

Oh dear. There are two ways this thread could have gone.

1. An apology for the misunderstanding
2. A retort that I got bored of reading

Choosing 1 would have put this to bed and you would have earned respect. Choosing 2 had the potential to make you look silly.

And for the record, the OED has more than one definition of race, including

"A group of people sharing the same culture, history, language, etc.; an ethnic group:
we Scots were a bloodthirsty race then'"

Racist is define as:

"A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another:
I had a fear of being called a racist"

Do I need to explain further.

Option 1 is still an option. Choosing option 2 again is not recommended.

[Shiny]

Oops. Pressed the wrong button.

[honda-hardy]

stefan? just because i chose to ignor your messages!!!! you are so predjudist againts yourself its unreal.

read again your paronoid thread!!!!

And on my point of view only reason why that happened, is because i have polish nick stefan.

stop wasting my time. you are self rasist.
it isnt the whole world against stefan

Internalized racism is loosely defined as the internalization by people of racist attitudes towards members of their own ethnic group, including themselves.

this in essence means that you have manifested this whole thing in your head. you say im discriminating against you because of your polish nick, but you are the one who keeps on presenting yourself as polish. i my dear couldnt give a damn. so again as mentioned before, to discriminate against someone of a different race (percieved or otherwise) is bloody racist.

i have no ill feeling to any race or nitin, but i do however have a feeling of sadness in the embodiment of the self loathing that you have shown against your own nationality.

[honda-hardy]

and admin /mod. do not deleate this or lock this. i have been slated and slandered and i excersize my right to continue to defend my actions through this thread.

[Shiny]

I'm still bemused how offering £60 and then selling it to someone else for £70 is selling it £10 cheaper

www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3u-wl8rIyE

[honda-hardy]

i cannot believe how you have jumped to the conclusion im discriminating against your racebecause i wouldnt sell you a badge. again at the time i had a badge i was not selling it. you however kept on in threads and messages for me to sell the badge. i was not interested.

i then get a nice, polite message from someone who had, what i thought to be a good reason for me to sell it. and she offered a great price. its up to me who and at what point i sell my stuff.

[honda-hardy]

I'm in disbelief

[NafemanNathan]

This could have been a beautiful thing Stefan... Your loving girlfriend sort out to find you the gift you've been desiring for so long, she found one, she paid in my opinion a hefty price for it, and willing because she loves you so, and then she surprises you with it for your birthday. I bet she couldn't wait to see just how delighted you were with it! I bet she would have loved to have known just how much you loved and appreciated how much sentiment went into choosing that gift for you and how much it meant to you.

... Yet you turn it into this?!...

Was all this your first thought upon receiving it?... Have you enjoyed the badge at all?

Just let it go. You made a bad accusation and have taken no big deal way too far and personally. And sadly you've now got a bit of a bad rep for it as well. It's time to

[honda-hardy]