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Post by nucleustylzlude » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:50 pm

Yeah Innovative too.

Apparently they're stiff enough, they don't warrant the front mount! Loads of people run them this way in the states. But ESP do do a front engine mount thing too, but it's more £££ again. Looked into buying the lot, but too much at the moment, will have to wait for next part of my build.

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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:53 pm

I had ESP priced up a couple years ago Rob. Including the traction bar as well, it didn't seem that bad, and I don't think their prices have gone up that much. The shipping as always was a killer, but might not be that bad if we combined ;-)

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Post by 4thgenphil » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:59 pm

how not bad are we talking?
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Post by nucleustylzlude » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:03 pm

Well I found them cheaper through another company in the US somehow but they could only do me the mounts as the traction bar was 'too big' to ship! :roll:

Phil, prices are on their site - not the easiest to find though, alot of scrolling!

http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net/

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Post by 4thgenphil » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:16 pm

worst website ever!
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:24 pm

Shocking isn't it. Put it this way... I was going for Innovative for the fact I could get them that much cheaper and they look better IMO too. The traction bar for the same reason is still expensive to ship though.

I can let you know the prices I was quoted for the lot tomorrow when I'm back at work. He quote me at the end of last year, so I don't know if the prices will have changed, but we may be able to do a group buy if there's enough interest ;-)

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Post by 4thgenphil » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:47 pm

yeh, let me know! you think traction bar aswell?
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:52 pm

I want one, but it was an extra £430 or something from memory. That on top of everything else I wanted was a no no, but should anyone else want to go for one and the price comes down dramatically, then I may go for one sooner rather than later ;-)

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Post by nucleustylzlude » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:27 am

8)

Interested too. Might be worth giving ESP a shout too, see if one can give a better price over the other with a group buy?

I'm about to post another update on my build for intake and exhaust and you'll see the issues with the front sub frame, a traction bar would help no end! But I'm not buying one of those cheap China knock-offs on ebay! :nono:

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Post by NafemanNathan » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:21 am

Thanks for the reminder Rob.

ESP prices have come down since I enquired back in July 2010! :lol:

ESP 4th gen Replacement Engine Mounts are $275 shipped to the US, so approx £145 and I was quoted an additional $30 (£19) to ship to the UK. So £164 not including any customs charges, and shipping costs have gone up since I was quoted. (But that still seems ridiculously cheap! :D ) Only Red or Black 70A hardness is available though. 150 powder coat colours are available (Prices may vary).

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ESP 4th gen Traction Bar is $350 shipped to the US, so approx £225, and I was quoted an additional $80 (£52) to ship to the UK, so £277 not including any customs charges or shipping cost hikes.

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The prices I've been quoted for Innovative more recently are...
4th gen Replacement Engine Mounts £220 delivered. 5th gen ones are available also.

4th gen...
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5th gen...
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Hardnesses are...
75A Track (Black)
85A Race (Grey) [Add $10.00 (£6.50)]
95A Extreme (Red) [Add $10.00 (£6.50)]

4th gen traction bar £380 delivered. The size hikes up his shipping cost loads so that obviously had to be reflected in the price he could offer me. 5th gen one is also available at the same retail price.

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So, full ESP kit... £441 + customs + shipping cost hike since 2010 ;-) (Likely to be around the £550+ total).

And full Innovative kit... £600 delivered, but again that price should come down considerably if there are more of us as the size of the traction bar brings shipping prices up loads, but additional traction bars shouldn't add that much as it's the overall length that effects things.

If we can gauge seriously interested numbers based on a £500-£600 (depending on delivery or collection from wherever in the UK), then I can re-enquire on full kits (Side and Rear replacement Engine Mounts & full Traction bar kit).

Innovative also do a seperate front Engine Mount (RRP $115) if you don't fancy going for the traction bar. I imagine this would be available, but I've not enquired about it before.

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Please gauge your interest here ;-)

EDIT: I for one can't afford it at the moment, so I would be talking about placing an order in a couple/few months, which should give everyone time to save hopefully.

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