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Post by white rabbit » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:29 pm

ive pm'd you my form
but where is my result on the list?

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Re: FAO those who attended Dyno Day

Post by chrismc » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:38 pm

Hmm- dyno lottery strikes again!

Quite a variation in transmission losses it seems...

Im no expert but I always thought the power at the wheels (ATW) was the only measurable quantity on any dyno with the flywheel power derived from that?

Ive always considered Transmission losses to be a relatively constant 'percentage' of total engine power...As engine power increases then so do the losses relatively proportionally.


'True' WHP/0.85 gives a decent (if not scientific) approximation of flywheel power for your average FWD car

Example: stock uk 4g h22a2- (~183 FWhp in the book) ~ 150-155atw

Owner then goes for an ATR engine swap (A8?) retaining original box with some mild bolt-ons resulting in 220fwhp so 185-190atw

The point im poorly trying to highlight is just because you increase engine power by say 50HP you don't suddenly incur a huge transmission loss as if you'd replaced the gearbox oil with treacle.....

Does this sound about right to you guys? Apologies for thinking out loud!!
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Post by Rocky » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:28 pm

A1ex wrote:Cool. I'll see if they can get it on next friday 'on the way' to Newcastle :? :lol:
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Post by A1ex » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:33 pm

Rhi's friend is getting married up that way. Will be another lude up north for a weekend :lol:
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Post by A1ex » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:08 am

Manifold is being repaired today and booked on the rollers at powerstation Friday to see if some of those horses and the mid range torque are going to come back :)

Conviced Rhi its 'on the way' to Newcastle :twisted:
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Post by NafemanNathan » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:17 am

Glad you decided to get it repaired yourself bud :) Do you know how much it's going to cost? And make sure you pop up some pics of the repair job afterwards ;-)

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Post by A1ex » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:32 am

Will do. No idea how much it'll cost yet mind, I'm expecting £100 but we'll see.
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Post by A1ex » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:21 pm

NafemanNathan wrote:Glad you decided to get it repaired yourself bud :) Do you know how much it's going to cost? And make sure you pop up some pics of the repair job afterwards ;-)
£40 to take the manifold off, reweld all 4 primaries and refit, not bad. The welding is pretty good, not perfect but for £40 :)
Ill get some pics up later
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Post by Rocky » Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:57 pm

A1ex wrote:
NafemanNathan wrote:Glad you decided to get it repaired yourself bud :) Do you know how much it's going to cost? And make sure you pop up some pics of the repair job afterwards ;-)
£40 to take the manifold off, reweld all 4 primaries and refit, not bad. The welding is pretty good, not perfect but for £40 :)
Ill get some pics up later
That's actually quite good. I've paid £30 to have a new flange welded to the centre pipe which I'd imagine is less work or easier.
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Post by A1ex » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:04 pm

little off topic, but here are the pics of the repair work;

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Need to re-do my heat wrap now tho
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