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Post by wurlycorner » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:36 am

I don't think anyone is suggesting this might not have been 'known' in some circles before.
I think what people are saying is, we don't get the point you're trying to make? As in, what's the big deal/where's the conspiracy? I think you're suggesting that we dont expect that the intelligence services know things before they tell us that they know? Errr... I wouldn't expect them to operate in any other way?

:think: Or, is that not the point you were trying to make? :? In which case, what is it please? :D

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Post by lewd lude lover » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:34 am

The point I am suggesting is that rather a lot of the population of the world AND the intelligence services have known about the probable ID of the bloke for a long time. Speculation that thats who he was started just after the first video and gained strong momentum through out the third quarter of last year. It came down to the fact that on some sites you could read about his history and his affiliations and the militiant groups he contacted to get involved. Like I say, his demo rap was available to listen to a few months ago on one site I visit. Its really old news.

He comes from the UK. Might not this information be worth sharing at some point a bit further back? It has been public domain for a long time but just now it fills a whole day of news. Knowing the main stream media that makes me supsicious.


He is also the perfect boogeyman, patsy imho to generate fear in our population. I have seen very little that lends itself to ISIL film production in his vids but a hell of a lot of what looks like western/semite propoganda. There is also the massive discrepency about the times at which the people he is supposed to have killed (no one has seen him braw blood dont forget) and when they seem to be killed on film (research NATO prisoner of war death records). But again, thats for another time.

It feels like a parent waving a hand infront of your face so you dont see them taking your favorite toy away for the bin is all I'm saying but its hard to see that unless you are looking at the hand waving from the other side.


Watch any one of the supposed execution vids he is supposed to have made and tell me it looks legit. They dont but the UK gov has said ''Its a punishable offence to watch these vids! DONT DO IT'' so people believe what they are told. Truth is the bloke either needs a sharper knife of better acting skills because both let him down in the final cut.

pun intended :lol: ;)

Either a true fanatic or a Mossad frontman, it matters not. The story of Jihadi john is full of lies and misdirection from our side and there will be no open discussion on it in the uk news.
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Post by 4thgenphil » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:51 am

Probable and speculation, after these key words I turned off.

Fact and evidence, that's what's real and thats what's needed for real journalism.
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Post by indigolemon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:41 am

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Post by Lude-dude » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:04 pm

s club 7 that's what started this

he thought drokk this western world :lol:
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Post by wurlycorner » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:16 pm

lewd lude lover wrote:pun intended
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Post by lewd lude lover » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:42 pm

4thgenphil wrote:Probable and speculation, after these key words I turned off.

Fact and evidence, that's what's real and thats what's needed for real journalism.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry Phil but you wont find any UK news source 'confirming' his identity now. If thats what you think they are saying then you really need to actually listen to what is being said. Your ''real journalism'' :lol: is exactly the same information available months ago to anyone with half the sense to look, rehashed to be fed to you.. They are still speculating and giving probable identity in any paper you care to pick up, you just cant see the wood for the trees mate.


''Real journalism'' :lol: thats going to give me a chuckle all day. Familiarise yourself with Mr Edward Bernays 1891-1995 and ask yourself why I'm laughing.
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Post by lewd lude lover » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:44 pm

Lude-dude wrote:s club 7 that's what started this

he thought drokk this western world :lol:
Yeah but have you heard what they get to listen to on a daily? Its like Medieval Radio2 :lol:
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Post by Donald » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:00 pm

You can't beat a good nasheed though.

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Post by lewd lude lover » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:24 pm

True true but you better be careful of using any instruments. Thats a stonin' right there :lol:
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