Ukraine

[Lude-dude]

Shocking. Live how barely any of this hasn't made the mainstream news.

It has? That's why the EU foreign ministers are meeting to discuss sanctions against the Ukranian government atm?


For people that think us leaving the EU is a good thing, is a more graphic example needed? Here's ordinary people in a developed country protesting against their own government to the point they're prepared to die in order to get into it, while we're in danger of letting some nasty, bigotted, small minded people like David Starkey and others in the gutter press like Kelvin Mackensie, Peter Hitchens and the like, brainwash the nation into sleepwalking out of it!

don't think Greece or Italy would agree..

its hard to see reality of what's going on in these countries, when looking at both side's of the propaganda

but I could easily see this being gays n lesbos in Russia one day, holocaust all over again

[Lude-dude]

we better migrate back to PUK for all the spam

[mercutio]

its a bad situation I have been speaking to guys I used to serve with its worse than your seeing they say people are being arrested and executed they are trying to keep the police they have captured safe but its not easy there have already been lynch mobs

they say its escalating badly now the army are waiting on the outskirts

[Donald]

I can fully believe that merc. I have heard of/seen some of these police captures, pretty brutal. Been watching the livestreams for most of the day and you can hear HMG fire from IFV, some vehicles have just been abandoned.

Where the line from riots to civil war is I don't know. The protestors wont go until the pres steps down, the police/military shoot anyone that gets close to parliament/tries to leave Independence Square. There's some big speech going on in the square at the moment but my Ukrainian is non-existent. Something mentioned about Spetznaz. There are Russian troops there already in Berkut uniform. Not sure if it's subsiding or not because the president just supposedly announce he will hold an early election.

[Doggo]

Good thread. But Grim.

[wurlycorner]

WTF? I didn't see that house and private zoo coming! How the drokk does that get built in less than 4 years, in what is meant to be a developed democratic country, without the public knowing?

It's interesting to see how all the violence has just melted away as soon as the presidents security have fled...

[jjmartin349571]

I'm glad it's all settling down. It's sad to think of the violence caused just as a result of the greed of a few

[jonja]

Politics think that klichko and few others from goverment gave guns and money to protestors , cause someone is sending money to them for food etc. and specnaz is shooting the ones with guns. But protestors are shooting each other aswell.

But if Ukraine will join EU they will be fckd without Russian gas and products, and Russia will be in trouble aswell
Im just watching russian news aswell )

[lewd lude lover]

its all a mess. we keep patting down these brush fires but we are ignoring the raging inferno building behind us. sooner or later the house of cards will burn up.

[rob quilter]

Look how easy the London riots started, imagine how bad things would get if people started giving a toss about things that actually matter.