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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:30 pm

Merlin wrote:I think it will all blow over. Clarkson is Top Gear. If the BBC does fire him he'll probably end up at Sky making the same show and being paid 10x more.
Any show on a commercial broadcaster would be nothing like as edgy or outspoken.
Do you think a commercial channel would allow them to slag off all modern Peugeot's, the latest performance Jag and Lexus etc? No way - they wouldn't survive the aggro from the companies that buy their advert slots. Viewing figures are great, except when that doesn't then translate into advertising revenue...


I've read a suggestion about replacing Jezza with Evans. And you know what? I think that could work actually. The show could definitely still maintain its 'fun' and 'entertainment' factor under him, so who knows.

At the end of the day though, an incident like this isn't anything to do with public popularity and petitions etc. it's an entirely employment law matter. Assuming he's a direct employee of the BBC (rather than a contractor) then what's happened is just what I'd expect to happen on the allegation of physical assault in the workplace - suspension, followed by investigation (either under company grievance or disciplinary procedure, depending on how it was reported). Then depending on the outcome of the investigation, it would then either be dropped (no case to answer) or go to disciplinary panel, which could have a number of potential outcomes. That's the kind of process it will need to go through, same for any employee no matter who they are. Also to note, that just because he was on a 'final warning' for swearing before, it doesn't necessarily mean that has any relevance when assessing this incident (physical violence might not be considered a similar offence etc?) and final warning doesn't necessarily mean dismissal is the next step - could be suspension, reduction in grade (pay) etc. etc.
If he's a contractor, it would be pretty similar process, except there probably wouldn't be a disciplinary panel and it would be a straight decision over whether to terminate the 'services' contract or not.

Something like that, anyway. But either way, it doesn't surprise me and it just needs to work through the process and we'll see what comes out the other side...

I don't understand why the show couldn't be broadcast without him doing the 'live' bits this Sunday on the face of it thugh (could do it with the other 2 still there but not him). But then again, there might be something silly in their contracts that says they only work as a trio or something about image rights or something contractually complicated like that... We just don't know...

drokking annoying though - this series has definitely been the best for ages!
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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:31 pm

Gayno wrote:He sold Top Gear to the BBC in 2012.
BBC have always owned Top Gear, it was just the international rights that he sold in 2012 (and the BBC already owned a large portion of that anyway, it was just part of the rights).
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Post by Merlin » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:36 pm

wurlycorner wrote:
Merlin wrote:I think it will all blow over. Clarkson is Top Gear. If the BBC does fire him he'll probably end up at Sky making the same show and being paid 10x more.
Any show on a commercial broadcaster would be nothing like as edgy or outspoken.
Do you think a commercial channel would allow them to slag off all modern Peugeot's, the latest performance Jag and Lexus etc? No way - they wouldn't survive the aggro from the companies that buy their advert slots. Viewing figures are great, except when that doesn't then translate into advertising revenue...
I cant remember the exact language used but wasn't he slagging off the people who buy Peugeot's rather than the company themselves? It is a fine line I know.

Look at that Katie Hopkins on ITV, probably more hated and outspoken. She is not slating companies but people instead.

If he did leave I am sure another channel would scoop him up.
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Post by prelude91 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:40 pm

Apparently J.C. is very jumped up and full of himself in real life, very obnoxious to others around him, both public and professional.

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Post by mercutio » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:53 pm

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Post by Sailor » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:34 pm

The full story is yet to come out. Why would anyone sign a petition to reinstate the chap until the facts are clear?
As to TG using shouty Evans instead ... forget it, please.

Either way, it reminds me of that Peter Kaye thing: "My mate got fired from the dodgems. He's taking them to court for Funfair Dismissal."
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Post by paul bristol uk » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:52 pm

mercutio wrote:
paul bristol uk wrote: If you hit a co worker in any other job you would be down the road sharpish
some people deserve it though :lol: :lol:
Apparently he lumped the guy for not having any grub ready after the programme!
Still I am sure the truth will out in time.
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Post by lewd lude lover » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:06 pm

If I was a commercial TV Exec I would be rubbing my hands together with glee at the thought of getting Mr Clarkson on the books. Finally he might be back on the open market.

How many column inches has he got in the last 12 months? You literally cant buy that kind of publicity. Internationally its gold.

''Welcome to new 6th gear on SKY with Jezza Clarkson'' (que exploding harrier jump jet and dancing hippo's).

Rubbing my hands with glee at the thought of all the money he'll make in the first three years after the break with aunty.
As to the legal work ramifications? meh. He is a diva. What you expect? He is a dive worth well over 50 million a year to the televisual broadcaster that has his contract loyalty.. More now he shows hes a rugged male not afraid to put on one a guy for not getting stuff done on time. I bet his popularity in south america (not argentine of course) goes through the roof with this piece of clarkson gold..Slapped a minion for not having his dinner on tap?? £££$$$. Is the guy he slapped worth that much per year? Worth all this media hassle considering the amount of money Jez makes for this country?. Maybe its not about money.... :lol:

I bet his next employer has people working close to him sign a waver on such things happening. He's worth too much as himself. He is a product. One worth tens of millions a year. A kebab sold and paid for. There are few characters left in this world of homogonised entertainment and his brand twatery will always earn ready cash. Employ him, take the mufflers off him and wait for the law suits to arrive. Somewhere the X+Y=Z equation has been done and jezza still makes money :lol:
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Post by lewd lude lover » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:13 pm

paul bristol uk wrote:
Apparently he lumped the guy for not having any grub ready after the programme!
#toldyouso2pageago

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