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Post by **Doggo** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:49 pm

Entertaining as ever. Good spot on the "weird thing".....

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89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:17 pm

Sailor wrote:Not far from Weimar is Buchenwald. We weren't sure if we wanted to visit or just felt we should.

Yep, in a similar way, it's a bit odd, but Auschwitz is somewhere I know I need to go.
I was taken to a holocaust memorial when I was a child. I can't remember now whether it was in Austria or Germany, but the place itself has stayed with me ever since - very vivid - whereas I remember very little about the rest of the holiday.
I actually think that's a very good thing.

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:26 pm

wurlycorner wrote:
Sailor wrote:Not far from Weimar is Buchenwald. We weren't sure if we wanted to visit or just felt we should.
Yep, in a similar way, it's a bit odd, but Auschwitz is somewhere I know I need to go.
I was taken to a holocaust memorial when I was a child. I can't remember now whether it was in Austria or Germany, but the place itself has stayed with me ever since - very vivid - whereas I remember very little about the rest of the holiday.
I actually think that's a very good thing.

if you like that sort of thing i remember a lot of places in Bosnia would be worth a visit!!!

YouTube · Post by **Sailor** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 12:56 am

Yes.
Some places are gruesome and some places go beyond that. Asking the questions "why" or "how can we make sure that ..." becomes futile unless there's
a) a workable answer and
b) a collective will to make that answer work

Anyhoo:-

Day 17 (part 1)
Eisensach

A place that has much more resonance in world history than Buchenwald is the Wartburg. Not only is this where many of the central European knights started their journeys on the Crusades, it's also pivotal in the Reformation. Luther woz here.

Post by **simonc** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:01 am

This is a fabulous thread, well done @Sailor and thanks for sharing your trip. Like Iain mentioned, Auschwitz is a place I need to visit. A good friend of mine did a 'Grand Tour' earlier in the year covering quite a lot of Eastern Europe and he actually went there. His descriptions of the place were disturbing, moving and (strangely) fascinating to hear. The way he described, with the aid of some very bleak photos, the isolation and terrible 'peace' of the place have stayed in my mind ever since.
Thanks again Sailor, marvellous stuff.

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 5:46 pm

i think i may have phrased that wrong i wasnt implying you would enjoy going. Its just there are places all around the world where great sadness crushes the atmosphere of the area and forgive me for being cynical we as a race have not learned any lessons

I hate that these places are touted as tourist attractions when they (all) should be a part of passing a test for being part of the Human race.
Anyway back to the great pictures

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:15 pm

I don't see that they're touted as tourist attractions? Surely they are a memorial and a lesson to future generations - that's why they're important and becoming more so, as people who are old enough to have lived through WW2 and remember it, become less and less.

Don't know if it's still part of the national curriculum as it was when I woz at skool, but it should be... (although of course, the national curriculum is becoming less national, now that parents that know better and don't want little Johnny to learn about those nasty things are able to set up their own school and choose their own curriculum...

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Post by **Donald** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:19 pm

wurlycorner wrote:Don't know if it's still part of the national curriculum as it was when I woz at skool, but it should be...

~10 years ago it wasn't in the compulsory curriculum. We did the industrial revolution, crop rotation (and no I wasn't in Norfolk at this time so it was nothing yokel

), some ancient stuff and very briefly touched on WW1.

I think I recall it being part of the history GCSE though, pretty sure my school covered medicine of the last 300 years and WW2. I didn't do history at GCSE though.

Might have changed but largely the school stuff is bum droppings.

A lot of schools run trips to Dachau, too.

Post by **paul bristol uk** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:21 pm

Merc sorry for the thread drift for the moment but you dont have a spare Kepi Blanc knocking about have you,or where I could get one? My stepson who is a hairdresser thought it would be a good idea to cut my hair on number one today

Post by **Donald** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:22 pm

paul bristol uk wrote:Merc sorry for the thread drift for the moment but you dont have a spare Kepi Blanc knocking about have you,or where I could get one? My stepson who is a hairdresser thought it would be a good idea to cut my hair on number one today

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