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BUILD PART 4) - Parts (Cont’d) - Seats, Brakes, Wheels

Post by nucleustylzlude » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:55 pm

BUILD PART 4) - Parts (Cont’d) - Seats, Brakes, Wheels

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Seats

I seem to have a thing about seats this last year, at one point I had 8 seats of assorted JDM goodness in the garage! Problems?

I sold the old Recaro SR3 confetti style ones to Mart609 which he was going to put in his Accord Wagon. Which still leaves me with 6 seats! I have the original Recaro SR3 from the Mitsubishi Evo 4, which I need to sell on. Plus I still have the rare red AAR bucket seats, which I am debating to part with soon to the right buyer with the right cash. :wink:

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So what am I using for the lude?

I’ve bought these which some of you may recognise, Recaro Sportline Top Fuel Specials:

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I’ve seen two other varieties of this seat, one in the states in red and black:

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And another all black in Japan:

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Mine are the only grey and black (with a hint of red) set I can find.

They need a little cleaning, which Dan (W1ggz) should be sorting out, along with my new track bucket seat for the drivers side. You won’t recognise it, it’s a Japan market only Recaro TS-G Limited Blue:

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They sell various forms of TS-G & RS-G (similar but not as laid back) from Recaro’s main dealer ASM in Japan in various finishes, but this Limited model was the first testers from Recaro before ASM took over. Only 150 made in each colour, red and blue. So nearly one of the rarest items on my car. 8)

Here is the best write up I can find from the best magazine in Japan:

http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/parts/05_11/recaro.html

Pretty cool!

This is the laid back version of the RS-G that Mugen use for their new seats and some of their concept cars:

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Here is the seat dimensions against the RS-G.

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I thought it would be a gamble as the AAR seats are beyond ‘snug’ for me and this was aimed at the smaller Japanese market. But it is perfect. The bottom bucket part is more generous than the likes of the high sided SPG’s and the shoulder strap holes and width of the shoulder area seem to fit me perfectly.

I’m not a big fan of the blue but they are in good condition. One day I may want to retrim it, in which case I’ll get it done like the Mugen Civic RR Advanced (concept car):

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This is the extent of my problems:

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Too many seats, tyres, gearboxes, etc, etc… :lol:


A final pic, as I am a pic whore of ASM in Japan and its extent of custom Recaros and the famous wall of seats! :shock:

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Seat Rails


Both the Top Fuel Recaro’s and the TS-G will be fitted using the original Bride rails, which I nearly sold – Sorry Ste and Phil!

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For the TS-G I have to add some side mounts, I picked up a pair of Recaro steel side mounts in the end, meant for XL seats:

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These don’t line up 100% so I simply swapped the inside mount drivers to passengers so they came into the seat a little more and hey presto! I guess some SPG mounts would fit 100%, but they’re bought now and they were cheap (as always!).


Harnesses

More changes. Original plan and posts I was going to use a Willans 2” harness in red colour. But I still wanted something better and preferably in 3”. I really liked the new black Takata’s but didn’t want to compromise to the lower end of the line up. So I found an unused, second hand Takata MPH-341 harness. Oh, and a genuine one at that!

I’ve always thought the green was a bit off, but damn they are nice harnesses. So I found one for a good price:

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Randomly in the box from the seller was some correct threaded Eye bolts and some even more random OEM Honda cotter pins – needed some of these too! 8)

Keeping my eye out for another to join this one, but not desparate yet. Also wouldn’t mind a set of the harness pads. The authentic jap ones are like £120 though. The new European ones aren’t as nice but still about £70-80 a pair! :shock:

And to strap it into the car of course we can’t forget the Tram Road Motors harness bar from the 1st group buy. Sexy stuff Phil. I opted for mine to be in primer:

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During my panting frenzy in the summer, this went white to go with a little colour theme here and there:

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I used Plasticote, not the best to work with, but after enough coats it was up to my standards.



Brakes

Next change of plans is in the brake department. I originally had the Hi Spec 4 pots with 330mm-ish discs. Well as most have probably already seen, pete106 has got his hands on these for a deal of sorts (cough).

Reason being is I snapped up the 6 pot Ksports with 306mm discs from Nellers brother.

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Loads of meat left on the discs and no calipers to refurb – I have no time and plenty of other stuff to fit! Plus the slightly smaller size disc gives more clearance for my wheels. Just need to sort the rusty bolts out at some point, but not urgent.

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Test fitted to the car with the track wheels. Still need to remove the dust guards.
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Sexy stuff! Should cope well, just trying to decide what to do with the rear now. :think:


Wheels

Finally! Back to my Volk wheels. It feels like an age since I last posted the split down of these. I painstakingly started to sand the lips back to polish them, and well…gave up. It was taking an age to do and its too much work for the upkeep of UKs weather and winter salt on the roads. So I decided to powder coat the rims as well as the centres. Colour choice has seen much debate over the years and I settled on…drum role…




ALL WHITE!

Might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I miss my white OZ wheels. Only other option was black, like when I bought them, but you would lose the detail of the wheel.

I used City Powder Coaters in Birmingham, following a recommendation from Mart609, they had a deal on for £20 a wheel standard colours. I had my new wheels for the Mazda 6 done for that price and he did the split rims in white for £30 a wheel. Even threw in the centre cap locking tool for free. Bargain!

Here’s when I got them back:

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Here they are mocked up with the polished bolts and a centre cap.

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Only PITA was the thickness of the powder coating to take out 99% of the blemishes has caused the centre cap wheel nut cover to not sit true. So I’ve been sat on evenings watching the telly, skimming thin layers down with a razor gasket scraper. Fun times! :lol:

Here’s what I’m talking about:

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As for the magnesium baskets (back part of the wheels). I had these spray painted by a friend for free in black. Results:

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Little Sienna liked this bit:

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All pieced together:

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Once I’ve got the wheel nut covers sitting true I just need to build them up (while not shearing any bolts!) and then some sealant to the joint to finish them. I’ve got a couple of Toyo T1-Rs to go on, just need to find two other tyres to add – Might try the Syron Street Race:

http://www.tyretraders.com/Syron.aspx

After using the Race 1’s on the front of my Mazda 6 and the rears of my missus’s 3 series Beemer, they are really good tyres.

I may have found some correct centre caps for them too! Fingers crossed I can get them. :rock:

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Post by RattyMcClelland » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:09 pm

Some gorgeous seats there. The top fuel ones are the nicest. Love the wheels too. It's slowly comming together now.
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Post by mercutio » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:32 pm

pity you cant fit 2 recaros in the back :lol:
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Post by Rob_Cool1 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:45 pm

nucleustylzlude wrote:I’ve bought these which some of you may recognise, Recaro Sportline Top Fuel Specials:

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There amazing! I litterly cant find a seat i like for my lude but these are awesome. If for any reason you dont wana use them let me know ;)

Been reading a lot of this thread (for about an hour :lol:), cant wait to see it when its done and on the track :P

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Re: Supercharged Mugen Lude (12/01/14 Update!)

Post by nucleustylzlude » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:42 am

RattyMcClelland wrote:Some gorgeous seats there. The top fuel ones are the nicest. Love the wheels too. It's slowly comming together now.
Cheers bud. Slowly getting things done. This thread is nearly up to date, got a couple more updates to follow. I do love the Top Fuel's, shame I'll be putting in the bucket straight away (for Japfest *cough*).
mercutio wrote:pity you cant fit 2 recaros in the back :lol:
Interesting... :think:


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Rob_Cool1 wrote:There amazing! I litterly cant find a seat i like for my lude but these are awesome. If for any reason you dont wana use them let me know ;)

Been reading a lot of this thread (for about an hour :lol:), cant wait to see it when its done and on the track :P
I can't wait either! :lol:
Thanks, glad you like the seats. If you like the style of the seat, look at some Accord Type R or Mitsi Evo 6+ Recaro's, they are practically the same sportlines as mine just trimmed differently. I saw a nice set of OEM Accord Type R ones go the other day in a leather / carbon effect leather combo - looked pretty cool.

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Post by Merlin » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:38 am

Another nice haul of parts there. That will be you, me, and Nafe with Ksport calipers. It is funny to see the differences in builds on what they spend their cash on.
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Post by wurlycorner » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:36 am

:? I think I'm confused...

You have a pair of Recaro Top Fuel's, but you'll be fitting one of those to the pass side and the Recaro TS-G Limited Blue to the drivers side? Have I got that right?

Interior colour scheme will be a bit, err... interesting! :lol:

Anyway, well done for pulling things out of your garage to photograph, then putting them back again! :10: ;) :lol:

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Re: Supercharged Mugen Lude (12/01/14 Update!)

Post by nucleustylzlude » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:10 am

:ignore:

:lol:

Well the plan is to use the Top Fuel's all the time. But when I have a track day booked I'll put the bucket seat in. But we'll see how that goes. I agree the colour scheme is a little off, that's why I might retrim the bucket one day. But overall a little off colour I don't care too much about, the bucket will be for function, even if a fair amount of my build is form. A mix of function and form can be a good thing I think.

Your welcome that they saw the day of light! :lol:

Forgot some things on the wheels front too, about to post up again.


Merlin: Yeah the Ksports seema good option, well priced in the grand scheme of brake kits out there. I need to give them a call about the best way to revive those bolts - replacements being the last option. A bit disappointed they've gone that way as there isn't much mileage on them.

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BUILD PART 4) - Parts (Cont’d) – More wheels…

Post by nucleustylzlude » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:12 am

BUILD PART 4) - Parts (Cont’d) – More wheels…

More Wheels!

I forgot to add these bits to my last update; I have a couple of other wheels.

Volk Racing Locking Tool

I had the locking wheel tool for the Volks powder coated with the wheels for the hell of it:

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Sam (Honda-hardy) did me a nice little ‘RAYS’ replacement badge to go in the recess on the handle. Thanks buddy. Its installed but no pics. The original ‘VR’ centre caps I have my eye on in Japan come with another one of these tools which has the original emblem. If I get my hands on them I’ll swap over the emblems and sell on the other. 8)


spare wheel

I while back now I picked up a cheap spare early style DC2 Integra wheel. To replace my OEM wheel in the boot well. During my haul of wheels up to the powder coaters, it was so cheap I threw this in with everything. £20 a wheel it was rude not too.

It looked like this before:

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But out of all the wheels came out the best from Powder Coating:


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I have the centre cap, which is in primer, just needs a lick of white.


However! This wheel was bought before I got my hands on some big brakes. There is no hope of using this wheel with either the Hi-specs or the Ksports. So I kept my eye out for a cheap single wheel for a spare, preferably in 17”. One day, this little beaut showed up on ebay and no-one else bid! Wahoo! It’s a Buddy Club P1 SF wheel, size 17 x 7JJ, ET42. Lovely wheel, not a million miles away from the Integra wheels design. Brand new boxed for a fraction of it’s £174 retail price. 8)

Some might say a bit too special for a spare wheel, but if you’re in the market for a single wheel, you would be amazed at how much good stuff is out there for little outlay. :wink:

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Oh, and kind of related was a nice find in the second hand place next to my work place; a 1/2” Rolson 24V rechargeable impact gun. I know Rolson is a cheap brand, but for £15 I don’t think they knew what they were selling! It has 200ft/lbs torque, variable speed, forward and reverse. So handy for around the garage and ideal for track days to put my track wheels on and off.

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That’s all folks!

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Post by Donald » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:53 pm

Nice as always 8-)

I too gave up on polishing lips, no idea how cebul did it. :lol:

I take it you acquired new bolts then or were your original ones in good nick? I was recommended this place http://www.titanium-touch.de/titanium_t ... dex_uk.htm but when I need 150 odd new ones it works out quite expensive!

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