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H22a Sump Gasket?

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Post by Merlin » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:32 pm

I am fitting my one to an engine on a stand, not in the engine bay.

To get the sump off in situ I would think you would need to remove the exhaust down pipe, lower centre beam, and possibly the gearbox housing strengthening plate. Once you get past that lot the sump itself comes off very easily.
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Post by kris_aka_edu » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:15 pm

Oh not much then! :shock: I stupidly assumed the sump was quite low and easy to get to with just a few bolts all round to seal it. Silly me! :lol: Something else I'll need help with then!

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Post by Vtecmec » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:47 pm

Yes, Merlins correct, also there's about 25 bolts holding it on :shock: 2 have difficult access and you'll need to torque them to spec in a specific order.

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Post by kris_aka_edu » Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:50 pm

Balls! Why does it have to be so complicated! lol

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Post by wurlycorner » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:26 pm

It's not so bad. A bit involved but not hard I wouldn't think.

The centre beam comes off really easy (6 big bolts) and the gearbox stiffener is (from memory assuming Merlin means the crescent shaped plate that covers the bottom of the bell housing?) 3 small bolts.

The biggest problem is the manifold (bolts corroded/stuck) but since you've had that off (recently? :? ) it should be fine.

I bet it'll be messy when you drop the sump though :(

nb: you really need a torque wrench for this. The sump would be very easy to bend and the gasket squash if the bolts are even slightly over tightened, which would cause bad leaks all over again...

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Post by kris_aka_edu » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:30 pm

Cheers for the advice mate. I don't think I know any one with a set of torque wrenches though. I've got ramps and loads of tools to do it just not them :( Hmmmm. Any way Merlin, when I get mine fitted i'll be able to recommend a cheap one if it works and fits ok!

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Post by GJMHONDA2012 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:40 pm

i need to change my sump gasket too as its got a small leek but ive replaced all my downpipe bolts with new ones so they should be easy to remove without snapping them

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Post by Merlin » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:13 am

I got the uber cheap gasket (£7 odd delivered). IMO it seems fine. It is the exact same moulding as the one that came off the engine. I suppose only time will tell if it lasts but at the moment I consider it a chunk of money saved.
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Post by bennyboy » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:30 am

@merlin I used one from Allparts (blueprint/ADL) and it was fine for 10 years, well literally until the new engine went in. :)
Not that you would, but don't overdo the sump nuts! Surprisingly low torque setting from what I recall.
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Post by Merlin » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:36 am

bennyboy wrote:Not that you would, but don't overdo the sump nuts! Surprisingly low torque setting from what I recall.
Yeah 12 Nm or 8.7 lb/ft according to the manual. I have an old school torque wrench ;)
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