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5G~4G Suspension Interchangeability

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Post by Donald » Sun May 05, 2013 9:21 pm

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Post by indigolemon » Sun May 05, 2013 9:34 pm

I'll keep an eye on things yo 8-)
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Post by mynameisowen » Tue May 07, 2013 10:24 am

It's sorted now, just my brother being a fool... A fluke occurrence.

So can anyone help me with this?

I was thinking of swapping the entire front suspension:
*knuckles inc. brakes
*control arms
*spring/shocks
*and probably steering rack/tie rods

Are these interchangeable with a 4G?
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Post by Merlin » Tue May 07, 2013 10:32 am

I dont know about the steering rack and track rod ends but every thing else should be a straight swap. I have heard from a good source that the rear arms are interchangeable.

I would be confident enough to dive in, but realise that you may hit one or two problems but these should be able to be overcome :D
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Post by mynameisowen » Tue May 07, 2013 2:01 pm

Thanks Merlin, I like your optimism.

Due to change in track and the fact that 4G is 4stud i'm thinking the following:

Parts off 5G:
Knuckles (because i want to keep 5stud (motegi wheels))
calipers/discs (to fit 5stud)
steering rack/tie rods. (because track different ???)
driveshafts (in case theres a difference between 5G and 4G male/female splines)

Parts off 4G:
4G lower arms/radius arms (surely the same)
4G spring/shocks (bet they are different stiffness/damping here)

As much I can take off a 4G the better as I have access to 2 in a scrappie. 5G stuff will have to be through cars being broken. However if I go for 4stud then I could probably just use pretty much everything from a 4G. Who knows if alignment is the same between cars, if not I presume tyre wear and handling might be poor.

Anyone got any input/experience with 5G~4G interchangeability?

I also need front rad support (crossbrace) and air intake. Thinking of taking these off a 4G, anyone know if they the same?
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Post by Merlin » Tue May 07, 2013 2:13 pm

The rear arms are deffo interchangable:

http://www.ludegeneration.co.uk/chassis ... m&start=10

The front arms is a grey area but I would be confident and have a go

Lings shows the radius rods to be the same (apart from one character in the part number) I would assume thay are the same.

Springs and shocks are fully interchangeable.

mynameisowen wrote:Who knows if alignment is the same between cars, if not I presume tyre wear and handling might be poor.
That wont be an issue as you will need a full wheel alignment done when you are finished.
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Post by mynameisowen » Tue May 07, 2013 4:57 pm

With regards to springs/shocks do we know if their characteristics are the same (spring stiffness, etc.)?
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Post by Merlin » Tue May 07, 2013 5:06 pm

I have never heard of anyone commenting on any differences such as spring rates. If there is a difference I would think it would be negligible as the weight differnce between the two generations is not that much.
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Post by Donald » Tue May 07, 2013 5:09 pm

Probably a more noticeable difference between drivers I imagine, the difference between say someone who's 5'8" and slight versus someone who's a chunky 6'3"er is probably more :lol:

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