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Swap 94 analogue dash for digital 96

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Swap 94 analogue dash for digital 96

Post by c_doughty1 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:01 am

Does anyone know how easy a swap of a pre digital 94 dash to a digital post 94 digital dash would be? Would I require anything from the 96 I.e wiring etc?
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Post by indigolemon » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:41 am

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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:27 am

:lol:
Timely...

I started writing a post yesterday about doing this.
I finally plucked up the enthusiasm to start doing this on mine on Sunday afternoon - UKDM EL dials into UKDM non-EL pre-facelift car.
Result? Car is still in bits and undriveable :roll: :facepalm: :lol:

I'll do a full post later on when I have time (with pics) but unfortunately, that guide bears no relation to what I found.
  • Firstly, there is no 'grey' connector anywhere, they are green and yellow.
    Secondly, reading that guide suggests there is little difference between the pre/post facelist looms. Unfortunately there seem to be quite a lot! (both in terms of number of wires per connector, pin outs and not forgetting that one connector is on a completely different side of the binnacle!)
    Thirdly, that guide suggests there is an extra earth on one side but less wires on the other side. Unfortunately that's not what I found - there are 3 more wires in total on the el dials in comparison to pre-facelift.
:roll:

Obviously it can all be sorted, but I haven't looked into the detail yet to work out how to make that happen. Fun for this weekend...

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Post by prelude91 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:30 am

Brave man, wurly, auto electrician, by any chance.

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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:39 am

prelude91 wrote:Brave man, wurly
:lol:
Yep - Why do you think it's taken me so long to pluck up the enthusiasm? (I've had my first set of dials for over 4 years now, sat ready but going no-where...)
What can I say, it seems I got high on the beautiful sun shine we had on Sunday and got carried away :roll:
:? Need to be careful if the sun ever comes out again, who knows what it might lead me to do next?! :scaredtoss:
prelude91 wrote:auto electrician, by any chance
Haha, nope (I am a qualified engineer though)

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Post by Donald » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:40 am

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Post by Vtecmec » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:43 am

When I did mine I went from JDM auto to UKDM Manual EL's, probably the biggest difference.

My approach was to take the wiring diagrams from each model's service manual and work out which wire needed to go where, as Wurly says, part of the loom needs extending, as well as the wires within each connector may need rejigging regarding their position. The wire colours change between models which is why you need the wiring diagrams.

Also a wire needs to be added from the (time) clock to the clocks for the odometer.

This is all from meneory as I did it about 7 years ago!

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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:49 am

Vtecmec wrote:My approach was to take the wiring diagrams from each model's service manual and work out which wire needed to go where
Yep, that's what I'll be doing! :evil:
Also a wire needs to be added from the (time) clock to the clocks for the odometer
:? Didn't expect that... :think: wonder why that is? That presumably explains one of the extra wires though!

At least I have plenty of bits to have a play with - I think I have 2 sets of UKDM EL dials (1 with pigtails), 2 sets of JDM EL dials and 1 complete dash loom from a JDM car :facepalm: (collecting parts over the years is the easy bit :roll: )
And the best part? After I've done it on my UKDM, I get the opportunity to do it all again but with slight variation, on Lisa's JDM! :lol:
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Re: Swap 94 analogue dash for digital 96

Post by c_doughty1 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:49 am

Ok yes mine is ukdm and I'm going to try and pick up a digital ukdm one too, I've got all the wiring diagrams so I should be ok....but I'm no auto electrician. I make kitchens for a living.
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Post by Donald » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:51 am

It's okay, wurly is only one of those engineers that can plug in a washing machine, dishwasher, etc.

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