Rush and BBC Grand Prix: The Killer Years

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:42 pm

Unless I've missed it, a bit surprised no thread commenting on Rush yet?

So who else has seen it and what did you all think?
I thought it was good, normally these kinds of films (built around a sporting 'event') don't work, but this one got the balance right between showing enough of the sport that you understood that side of it and understood some of the excitement, danger and politics of it, with the story about the 2 personalities, too.
I thought the ending (the short monologue by Lauda) was absolutely brilliant. Just summed it all up in a few short words.

Also just watched the above BBC documentary I missed the first times round it was shown (it was on BBC4 earlier tonight so I guess it'll be on iplayer at the moment for those that haven't seen it?).
Anyone else watched this?
I've seen other documentaries about racing around that era before so I knew it was really bad, but none I've seen have been quite so focussed as this one. Shows just how truly horrendous it was.
Difficult to see how Jochen Rindt's wife dealt with what happened to him. And as for the 73 Dutch GP, I've seen a short clip of that before and been shocked by it, but haven't seen footage as long as that before. Just staggering the complete lack of any action and just seeming acceptance that 'yep, there's a bloke inside that fire and yep, it'll just burn and he'll die.' Just quite a shocking attitude from all the people around. You wouldn't even get facilities as crap as they had back then, at a hill climb these days!

Mattbigwood · Post by **Mattbigwood** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:52 pm

I haven't had chance to see Rush yet, despite wanting to see it ever since I first heard about it.
That footage from the 73 Dutch GP is horrific. I came across it ages ago on youtube and the worst part for me is how the other driver vainly struggles to get him out of the burning car whilst everyone else drives past.
Formula One has thankfully become safer over the years but in turn has spawned a different style of driving. In the Senna film Jackie Stewart interviews Senna and put it to him that he had more collisions during his career than all previous champions. This has continued through the Schumacker years and still continues.

Post by **simonc** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:17 am

Really looking forward to seeing "Rush" although I think it won't be shown in many cinemas here! I really wish I could have seen "The Killer Years" as I've seen and heard a lot of chatter on some on the F1 sites since it was first aired. I hope when I come back over Christmas I may be able to pick up a DVD of it.

Cobutops · Post by **Cobutops** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:00 am

I thought Rush was brilliant, i took the girlfriend and she loved it too, it's a great story of a rivalry between two interesting personalities. I didn't know an awful lot about the story before i watched it which was great. Loved all the race scenes and the detail of the old cars.

I hadn't heard about the BBC documentary, sounds interesting.

W1ggz · Post by **W1ggz** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:05 am

I am also waiting to watch rush I watched the bbc doc a little while ago didn't see all of it but I did see the crash you were on about Wurly and couldn't believe that no one was stopping and how the guy pulled him out while others just stood there watching. You get more help at a track day than they did then.

bb1boy · Post by **bb1boy** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:19 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... ler_Years/ I missed it, I was watching Mythbusters..

Post by **Lude-dude** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:24 am

seen the doc, waiting to see the film..

real heroes in those days to do what they did,

and more ruthless by the look of it..

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:45 am

The other interesting thing about it was looking at recent day f1 to see how things went full circle, with the GPDA having dropped into obscurity, until ratzenberger and senna were killed and suddenly they all got interested again and remembered why it was a good idea!

mercutio · Post by **mercutio** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:45 pm

I remember watching the f1 when I was young sat transfixed when niki lauda crashed

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:43 pm

I was like that with Senna's crash, which I saw live.
Ratzenburger's crash wasn't covered live to as great an extent on the previous day, IIRC

I've always been rather annoyed that Senna's death has completely overshaddowed Ratzenburger and he gets forgotten about.

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