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Re: Merlin's 4G Time Attack Lude - SLS Round 3 (drama)

Post by Merlin » Thu May 29, 2014 1:39 pm

The result is both good and bad. Bad that I wont be in the mix for a win every week but good that I can go and develop the car further without worrying about putting myself into the class above. Onwards and upwards!

TBH I think this just adds to the case that doing the competition based on whp/T is hard to govern.
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Post by wurlycorner » Thu May 29, 2014 2:09 pm

Right, so this has proved nothing then, other than that 2 dyno's are not comparable with one another.

Unless they re-dyno'd your car on the same original Dyno, they don't know that you haven't fiddled with it since you had it dyno'd and classified (i.e. whether you have 'cheated' - incidentally, I was of course joking in my last post and I don't believe for a minute that you have!!!)

If they now decide to exclude the results of your previous dyno, then they will need to exclude and re-dyno all other cars that were dyno'd on that Dyno Dynamics machine? They've can't selectively excluding some but still allow others!

Also, were all the other cars in Class D dyno'd on this Mainline machine? If not, then how do you know the cars you're now competing against, shouldn't be in Class C? :?

A bit of a farce really... They'll need to restrict it all to one dyno in future to avoid this crap.

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Post by wurlycorner » Thu May 29, 2014 2:12 pm

Interestingly you can see vtec yo! even less in the newer dyno plot? :?

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Post by bb1boy » Thu May 29, 2014 2:15 pm

wurlycorner wrote: If they now decide to exclude the results of your previous dyno, then they will need to exclude and re-dyno all other cars that were dyno'd on that Dyno Dynamics machine?
^^ this, or it's all bull$hit.
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Post by Donald » Thu May 29, 2014 2:21 pm

Agreed with wurly.

So by this logic, you now have the right to request ALL other cars in the comp. be redynoed and reclassified appropriately, rendering all previous placements invalid? I mean if you want to get technical, even running on the same dyno on two different days can make a difference. Can't see that happening.

I really don't see what this whole ordeal has achieved other keep someone's toys in their pram.



Regardless, congratulations on a Class D win 8-)

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Re: Merlin's 4G Time Attack Lude - SLS Round 3 (drama)

Post by Merlin » Thu May 29, 2014 2:21 pm

I am not going to get myself involved with any political decisions. I have had enough already.
wurlycorner wrote:Unless they re-dyno'd your car on the same original Dyno, they don't know that you haven't fiddled with it since you had it dyno'd and classified (i.e. whether you have 'cheated' - incidentally, I was of course joking in my last post and I don't believe for a minute that you have!!!)
That is the scientific way at looking at it. Don't worry I know you were joking.

TBH I would like to put this behind be now. Although the issue isn't over as they guys in the class above me wont be happy at being bumped down and me taking the points. I feel like I'd be the focus of people complaining in whatever group I am in.
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Post by bb1boy » Thu May 29, 2014 2:22 pm

Like I said on your facebook - jealousy burns!
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Post by BMCC » Thu May 29, 2014 2:23 pm

Merlin wrote:The result is both good and bad. Bad that I wont be in the mix for a win every week but good that I can go and develop the car further without worrying about putting myself into the class above. Onwards and upwards!

TBH I think this just adds to the case that doing the competition based on whp/T is hard to govern.
Very poor organization If it was me I would have a right pop at them. The only way to be sure if every car is classed right is for them to be measured on 1 dyno, that way no one can have a bitch about another competitor.

At least you beat the moaning C**t. Rub it in by beating him on a regular basis :D

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Post by wurlycorner » Thu May 29, 2014 2:45 pm

Fair do's mate, must be right PITA after the hard work you've put in and the great results you've had.

Hope you can get back to enjoying it all and kicking some more butt 8-)

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Re: Merlin's 4G Time Attack Lude - SLS Round 3 (drama)

Post by Merlin » Thu May 29, 2014 2:56 pm

BMCC wrote:Very poor organization If it was me I would have a right pop at them.
Even during all this jobby I have tried to keep my cool and have made a few friends along the way. All the officials know me now :lol: Enough people have/will throw their toys out of their pram over this reshuffle, I don't want to be added to that list.
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