How many cars could you fit in here I wonder?

[paul bristol uk]

Have I missed something or will you get tied into a full repairing lease if so I would not touch it. The other thing about leases is if you move on and someone takes over even legally the landlord will come after you for the money if they go bust or do a runner. If its just a straight forward rent that does not apply

[Donald]

EDIT:
Asbestos cement is white asbestos and maintenance/even removal of it isn't licensed - it's that's low risk in the scheme of things. But don't just take my word for it: http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/essentials/cement.htm

I'm not sure why you're showing me what asbestos looks like but you must have missed this section http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/detail.htm (about duty, not necessarily risk, which is what was on about to start with until you started going on about it not being dangerous ) and the link just below about the Hidden Killer campaign.

When can we agree who can body lemonade furthest into the wind?

[wurlycorner]

Gonna need to see some citations here. I'll show you my statistically backed source if you show me yours.

I don't need to show you nuffink! I'm quite comfortable in my training and experience in managing in heavily safety regulated industries thank you

TBH, my highest risks of contracting cancer (lung/skin) would have been from the few years I spent working in process manufacturing. Lots of nasty solvents, acrylate resins, nasty gases, RF emissions, UV light, laser radiation and (worse for lungs than the solvents) silica and zirconia dust.

(And you should know better than to try and get a rise out of me)

[Donald]

Have I missed something or will you get tied into a full repairing lease if so I would not touch it. The other thing about leases is if you move on and someone takes over even legally the landlord will come after you for the money if they go bust or do a runner. If its just a straight forward rent that does not apply

This is what I was in my first link and why I wouldn't touch it (it being the renting of the property) tbh:

In many cases, the dutyholder is the person or organisation that has clear responsibility for the maintenance or repair of non-domestic premises through an explicit agreement such as a tenancy agreement or contract.

The extent of the duty will depend on the nature of that agreement. In a building occupied by one leaseholder, the agreement might be for either the owner or leaseholder to take on the full duty for the whole building; or it might be to share the duty. In a multi-occupied building, the agreement might be that the owner takes on the full duty for the whole building. Or it might be that the duty is shared - for example, the owner takes responsibility for the common parts while the leaseholders take responsibility for the parts they occupy. Sometimes, there might be an agreement to pass the responsibilities to a managing agent.

In some cases, there may be no tenancy agreement or contract. Or, if there is, it may not specify who has responsibility for the maintenance or repair of non-domestic premises. In these cases, or where the premises are unoccupied, the duty is placed on whoever has control of the premises, or part of the premises. Often this will be the owner.

[wurlycorner]

I'm not sure why you're showing me what asbestos looks like but you must have missed this section http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/detail.htm

Similarly the way you missed this section at the bottom of the link I posted you, I guess?

How dangerous is this?
You don't need a licence to carry out work with asbestos cement, and it also doesn't need to be notified[5].

[mercutio]

ok girlies handbags down and claws away

[Donald]

I don't need to show you nuffink! I'm quite comfortable in my training and experience in managing in heavily safety regulated industries thank you

TBH, my highest risks of contracting cancer (lung/skin) would have been from the few years I spent working in process manufacturing. Lots of nasty solvents, acrylate resins, nasty gases, RF emissions, UV light, laser radiation and (worse for lungs than the solvents) silica and zirconia dust.

[citation needed]

Experience/training doesn't negate the need for evidence for your claims, especially when you ignored every point I made and basically said "I know because I just know!"

(And you should know better than to try and get a rise out of me)

I consider it a success, your need to assert your authority on the subject by stating your career path as a means to validate your unsupported claims was rise enough.









Also what are you harping on about licences for? I don't need a licence to put my penis in a vagina but it doesn't mean all of them are safe. One sentence about one type of asbestos being safe does not mean an entire EU directive covering all asbestos types is false.

"someone that knows a bit more than Donald about this"

Gonna need more citations! Not seen any evidence yet, learn to debate.

[Vtecmec]

[4thgenphil]

Is Donald actually newkid?

[Donald]

That would be a plot twist

I think the answer you're looking for is someone incredibly bored with a desire to have a sound discussion about something no one really cares about with someone intellectually flexible until we eventually descend into name calling.

Then we can all lol about it at meets etc.