End of an Era...Which Gearbox/LSD combo

Post by **lewd lude lover** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:21 am

Sounds like another way to ruin what was a good car imho. You hought a type s and have spent thousands making it into a very confused vehicle. Personally the charger was a step back. This is a leap.

The bimker is for beating and for tail sliding. I would not personally do anything to change the basic personality of my type s as I think its nicely balanced as it is. The search for immature power has lead you to forego mature handling. Greedy emanage is the one system rich at PAW won't work on because its so unreliable.

Um. Sorry mate. I think you shoulnt have done either to a type s. A vti yes. You are obviously making it better, a type s? Not making it better, just turning it into just another car with a blower and lsd. Imho. Sorry I can't love on it but I can't. I think youre making a mistake. Not in what you are doing but what you are doing it to.

Mudgey · Post by **Mudgey** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:58 am

Hi Ratty,

IMO the Type S chassis is the best base to start from, its lighter, no RWS & has the better front suspension geometry and as you've mentioned you've done all that work to your car already, so why change the car?

nitin_s1 · Post by **nitin_s1** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 1:18 pm

Actually, Ratty was my idol for owning the best Type-S. And now he is loosing the main thing that makes a Type-S so I'm feeling sad..

When I saw that he is loosing ATTS, I thought 'Oh jobby' and 'No way'.

I know what James is saying that he should have used a normal VTI or just standard 'SiR' and left the Type-S a true car with ATTS. But I also see he has spend so much on it, love for it and individual touches making it his so it's also best for him to keep it and do what he wants and thinks it's best.

Post by **RattyMcClelland** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:00 pm

Narrr. They Type S is the perfect base to start on. Supercharging will improve it and a heical LSD will do the same as ATTS just not as obvious in its action. Maybe better, maybe not....we will see soon.

Post by **lewd lude lover** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:45 pm

*shrug

Youll love it and itll go BWAaaaaaaaa so no problems. Get stuck in.

Post by **4thgenphil** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:57 pm

Can you reverse this mistake in a few months ratty?

Post by **4thgenphil** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:58 pm

Also tou thought about dropping a non type s lump in for if/when you blow it up?

Post by **RattyMcClelland** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:47 pm

4thgenphil wrote:Can you reverse this mistake in a few months ratty?

???? How do you mean?

I just found another tunning company that might be able to help with the Greddy. IF they can guarantee the tune wont drift then ill get it done.
I have been reading up on the S2000 forums and i think it was a toyota chaser general toyota forum and also use OBD2 with learning ECU. There is a certain way that the greddy can be tuned without the OEM ECu causing a fight.

When the ECU is in closed loop operation like track driving and very fast road then the Greddy will be fine since the stock ECU is ran off a set map. But in closed loop like everyday driving when the ECU adjusts fuel from the info the 02 sensor sends they the fight is on and the ecu can learn and change its settings.

I think more chatting to some tuners is in order.

Might be a case of just get it tunned. Se how it goes over a few months and if its changes then go with the p28 unattsless route.

Also if the engine blows im going down the k24 route

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:18 pm

4thgenphil wrote:Can you reverse this mistake in a few months ratty?

4thgenphil wrote:Also thought about dropping a non type s lump in for if/when you blow it up?

Subtle!

Seriously though, I'm pleased you're gonna give the tuning a go Ratty, it must be worth a shot - you'd be the only one with a charged Type-S (with ATTS!). Otherwise it's 'just another' supercharged lude (

'cause there are so many of them, right?

)

Mudgey · Post by **Mudgey** » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:19 pm

RattyMcClelland wrote:
4thgenphil wrote:Can you reverse this mistake in a few months ratty?
 ???? How do you mean? I just found another tunning company that might be able to help with the Greddy. IF they can guarantee the tune wont drift then ill get it done. I have been reading up on the S2000 forums and i think it was a toyota chaser general toyota forum and also use OBD2 with learning ECU. There is a certain way that the greddy can be tuned without the OEM ECu causing a fight. When the ECU is in closed loop operation like track driving and very fast road then the Greddy will be fine since the stock ECU is ran off a set map. But in closed loop like everyday driving when the ECU adjusts fuel from the info the 02 sensor sends they the fight is on and the ecu can learn and change its settings. I think more chatting to some tuners is in order. Might be a case of just get it tunned. Se how it goes over a few months and if its changes then go with the p28 unattsless route. Also if the engine blows im going down the k24 route

I#ve got a helical in the Type S, don't even bother fitting a gbox without one, with my SC motor the inside wheel would spin up with just the slightest steering input on corners. I got an MFactory fitted and the car just pulls you around corners now! Feels just like it did with the ATTS unit but now with much more needed power

I would stay away from the K24, they sit 20mm taller than the K20, which IMO could do with more sump clearance, the weak link with the K series motors is the gearbox, so your better off sticking with a lower torque but higher revving K20 motor, it costs the same to get the same power out of both motors but the K20 will be easier on the box.