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I am now an intergenerational Luder.

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Re: I am now an intergenerational Luder.

Post by BlackShadow » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:11 am

Well, I had some problems with the radio/phone. Here's what happened:

I put the phone in the car, not expecting it to work, since it doesn't have a handset (yet), or antenna. Also it is analog, and the world is digital now. No big deal, all I bought it for was it's retro charm.

The phone came with this radio:

Image p/n 39100-SV4-A000-M1

Which looks identical to the Prelude radio (below) I already had in the car. The radio I had the code for.

Image p/n 39100-SS0-C300-M1

When I put the phone in, I swapped out that mystery radio, for the one I already had. I punched in the security code and it came to life. There was one tiny problem...

There was no sound.

In the video, you can hear the phone key tones, but there was nothing coming from the radio. It was as though the phone was preempting the radio (which makes sense, that it can).

I poked an prodded at the radio, and couldn't get anything to work. I thought maybe the radio and the phone were paired. I know the radio I already had in the car came with a CD changer, so I wondered if Honda had a special radio for the phone. But how could I find out? The radios from this era all had security codes, and I didn't have the code for this radio... which is why I didn't use it.

I searched and searched all over the net, trying to find a way to get the code. My local dealership couldn't get it. The radio-navicode site is only for American cars, and requires an American VIN. I saw a whole bunch of apps, and sites all promising to get the codes. None seemed trustworthy. What to do?

I put on my detective hat and had a closer look at the radio (39100-SV4-A000-M1). On the case there is a pin out diagram. I compared this to the diagram in my service manual, and found something interesting. The radio has a pin labeled "TEL/MUTE", and the shop manual diagram, as well as the harness for the CD changer and the Prelude radio, had nothing in that slot. Eureka!

Accord radio:
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Prelude radio:
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After some more digging, I found that 39100-SV4-A000-M1 is from an Accord, not a Prelude. So the phone is paired to the radio. The problem of the security code remained. The dealership said the radio came up as invalid. American Honda couldn't find it either. I even began looking for another 39100-SV4-A000-M1 radio, that came with the code. Before I pulled the trigger on another radio, I did one last round of detective work. I was glad I did. It turns out 39100-SV4-A000-M1 doesn't need a code! Weird for a Honda radio of that era, and especially one that is sophisticated enough to be paired with a car phone.

I plugged'er in and bam.. I have radio again!


Here's a video of the final product..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ0M_VA ... e=youtu.be



In other news, I was working on the blue top, getting it ready for the swap-a-roo... I decided to clean it up a bit.

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Yes, there was some unpleasantness when one of the bolts for the front motor mount snapped off. I drilled and drilled and drilled, and couldn't make a dent in it. I even went out and bought one of those specialty easy out kits. Withthe way those chintzy drill bits folded, I would have had more success politely asking the bolt to come out. I'm on the fence, as to what to do now. Do I want to invest in more hardware to remove it? Or say **** it, and let the shop doing the swap deal with it. One thing is for certain though; when it is removed, I am having it set in a ring for my g/f, cause its apparently made of diamond.
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Post by wurlycorner » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:48 am

drokk me that's shiny!
(you missed a bit though - behind where the a/c compressor mounts :nono: ;) :lol: )

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Post by mercutio » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:20 pm

is that polished or painted?
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Re: I am now an intergenerational Luder.

Post by BlackShadow » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:29 am

Polished, naturally :)

Anything less would be uncivilized.

I'm not going for a mirror finish though. It still has the rough texture.


I've seen painted blocks before and they look *alright* but I've always preferred the look of natural metal. Plus honda didn't paint it.
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Post by wurlycorner » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:22 am

Polished looks great, but paint lasts much better. I polished and lacquered the aluminium bits of an engine I built when I was 18 and was gutted at how quickly the surface corrosion came back :cry:

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Post by mercutio » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:29 pm

wurlycorner wrote:Polished looks great, but paint lasts much better. I polished and lacquered the aluminium bits of an engine I built when I was 18 and was gutted at how quickly the surface corrosion came back :cry:
yeah I have to oil my bike engine to keep the corrosion at bay
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Post by Donald » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:31 pm

mercutio wrote:
wurlycorner wrote:Polished looks great, but paint lasts much better. I polished and lacquered the aluminium bits of an engine I built when I was 18 and was gutted at how quickly the surface corrosion came back :cry:
yeah I have to oil my bike engine to keep the corrosion at bay
Don't we all. :roll:

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Post by mercutio » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:47 pm

Donald wrote:
mercutio wrote:
wurlycorner wrote:Polished looks great, but paint lasts much better. I polished and lacquered the aluminium bits of an engine I built when I was 18 and was gutted at how quickly the surface corrosion came back :cry:
yeah I have to oil my bike engine to keep the corrosion at bay
Don't we all. :roll:
not on the outside :lol: :lol:
bristol_bb4 wrote:ahhh a 5th gen, i love 5th gens :D :lol:
Dino wrote:I loves the 5th gen really.... just dont quote me on it... ;)
4thgenphil wrote:Mines 4 1/4 unches mate, sorry

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Re: I am now an intergenerational Luder.

Post by BlackShadow » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:31 am

I am no longer an intergenerational luder.

I still have the 5th gen, but I got a pretty good offer on the 4th gen so I had to let her go to make room for a dream car of mine.



V6, manual, RWD, LSD, dual exhaust, only 2 seats, no sunroof, but you can still see the sky.

;) Any guesses as to what it is?
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1996 Prelude SR (sold)
1994 Subaru SVX LSi (Sold)

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1990 Nissan 300ZX (weee!)
2011 Ford CVPI (daily)
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Post by Sailor » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:45 am

Alfa Spider?
Cliosport?
Morgan Roadster?
Lotus Evora?
Honda NSX?
International Pensioner of Mystery

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