E10 fuel is this the end of the classic car

[nalla]

It seems all doom and gloom. I think I'll sell the Prelude, and get a Honda E before it's too late. If this is all true, all our cars will be worth scrap value only

[wurlycorner]

I don't think it's that bad - petrol will still be available.

[RattyMcClelland]

Petrol/diesel will be available beyond 2030 as its literally 90% built into our society right now.
Solid state batteries are the next big thing and they won't be commercialised until 2025 so cars can match petrol range.
People are betting on hydrogen but it's very inefficient against mass battery storage especially when more denser batteries are nearing production and people attitudes to charging slowley change. We will see petrol and diesel available until 2040 in my opinion until it becomes more specialised to order.

[Andyjess666]

If you had the money you could always get your prelude changed to electric in the future

[RattyMcClelland]

If you had the money you could always get your prelude changed to electric in the future

I plan on that when solid state batteries come into play as they will be lighter and more dense than current li-on moist batteries.

[Andyjess666]

The car scene will change forever as batteries become better an cheaper

[Sailor]

Actually, the 'engineering' discipline of the future won't be about technology at all; it'll be social engineering. In a way, it will be a return to the old days; housing, education, culture and work will all happen close to each other geographically. Physical long-distance interaction will become a rarity.

The car scene will be made up of three main strands:

1. The museum. We'll all get to stroke our goatees and nod our heads at how the Renault Avantime was daring and the Honda Insight had elevated the mundane to the level of art.

2. The proud overalls. Akin to today's preserved steam railways, people who know about cams profiles or the voltage drops inherent in ABS switching will have to speak in deliberate, nasal accents.

3. Death Race 2100. If you've got enough points on your donor card, you can buy petrol for the thing for which you've paid oodles to keep in a track-side shed. You can then rag it for just long enough for it to break and be crashed into.

[wurlycorner]

If you had the money you could always get your prelude changed to electric in the future

I plan on that when solid state batteries come into play as they will be lighter and more dense than current li-on moist batteries.

Electric swapping my current fleet of cars just doesn't at all appeal to me in the slightest.
If I want a fast electric car, I'd just buy one of those - it would be a far better electric driving experience than an e-swapped Prelude ever would be. The 4th gens are what they are and a *massive* part of the enjoyment of them is the the full-on VTEC-Yo! when you put your foot down.

*maybe* e-swap a 3g (no vtec-yo! anyway and doing any kind of build with the B20A7 engine is a nightmare for parts availability and prices) but certainly not high on the list.

[Sailor]

Diesel's the way forward for me.
It's remotely possible that I'll live long enough to see petrol taxed to a level of extreme discouragement, but with so many commercial vehicles burning the smelly stuff. it's hard to see diesel being canned * as early as 2040, let alone 2030.



* silly quip

[wurlycorner]

Agree I think Diesel is likely to be around for longer due to large use in industry - although when workable alternatives are cheaper, large industry is likely to make a switch over much more quickly than consumers do...