Oh dear - nevermind

Post by **Donald** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:34 pm

Tried returning my Nexus 4 to stock from CyanogenMod.

All went well. Followed whatever the instructions were with fastboot and all that stuff.

Now I have a keeled over robot with a red exclamation triangle thing. This is super inconvenient as my bus pass was on my phone

I can get into fastboot mode fine, as in I have:

Start
Restart bootloader
Recovery mode
Power off

But I'm unsure what I'm meant to do now. Everything seemed to be going okay, as it always does

I guess I'll try reflash whilst I wait for replies?

@indigolemon please give me some love.

Post by **Donald** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:36 pm

I should mention I tried with factory image:

5.0.1 (LRX22C)

Think I should try an earlier one like 4.4?

I've also just remembered I think I forgot to erase all the data before starting

So logically if I wipe all data and try again, it should work? I presume there is some sort of clash?

EDIT:
Erased userdata and cache via fastboot. Flashed userdata and cache from factory image zip. I have no clue what I'm doing

Post by **ek9sid** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:06 pm

I know it's not much help but I had a galaxy S with the CyanogenMod and after I tried to factory reset it, it wouldn't let me update the system. So ended up with a really old phone with a really old operating system version which really suck.

Hope you get sorted soon (I still have no idea what the CyanogenMod is).

Post by **Donald** » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:56 pm

Thanks sid.

I don't know if I was being impatient (most likely) or if there was an issue with what I was doing, but 5.0.1 took an age to do anything (well I don't actually know, I assumed after 10-15 mins it was stuck in a loop and rebooted it myself) so I flashed 4.4. 2-3 mins on the spinning circles guff and it started up fine.

So... no help needed anymore.

G, I will of course let you know if this solved my call issues

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:43 am

This explains the lack of response on whatsapp...

Post by **Donald** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:22 am

Yes, 'explains it'

Post by **Donald** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:27 am

Okay new issue...

Now I'm back on stock ROM, what is this jobby with Google forcing me to store my contacts on their cloud? Before I could just store it to SIM...

EDIT:

PITA... had to delete contacts sync app and remove all other accounts (like corporate) to get local storage.

Confused · Post by **Confused** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:35 am

I don't know why you wouldn't want your contacts stored on the cloud?

Firstly - the SIM has a limited amount of storage space (something like 100 numbers), and it only supports storing one number per contact. So you end up with "Mum - Home", "Mum - Mobile", "Mum - Work" etc. You can't store other details - postal addresses, email addresses, dates-of-birth etc on a SIM.

Secondly, if you change network (and therefore SIM), or lose your phone/SIM, you have to re-enter all your contacts. If they're on the cloud, then you get instant access to all your contacts on whatever device you have signed into your Google account with.

There's so many advantages, that even the "OMG privacy" excuse for not doing so pales into insignificance.

Post by **Donald** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:58 am

I understand it would be a pain for people with many contacts and that want to catalogue everything. I don't have many, less than 20 including family. I don't need to store so much info. l don't email. I don't send letters. Birthdays, I know the important ones. I'm PAYG and all the plans are pretty much the same so I don't hop networks, I top-up a tenner every 6 weeks.

It would be nice if people would at least have the option to do it 'the old fashioned way'. Being essentially forced to use cloud is what I find irritating. I was discussing this with someone last night. I have them all written down on paper, and with so few it's not an issue to input them again.

I get that it comes across as a bit tin foil hat and probably a bit hypocritical considering some of the services I use, but there is absolutely no advantage for me to allow Google that kind of information. Perhaps a bit farfetched, but I'm sure you'd all be pissed if your lives were intruded upon (although probably without you knowing) just because I had your number in cloud storage and I'd committed some horrific act of terrorism.

I understand that everything is probably too far gone for true privacy, too. I still want to at least attempt to limit what is shared. Every available option to 'increase functionality' or 'streamline the experience' is turned off, and it has had no impact on me whatsoever.

Confused wrote:There's so many advantages, that even the "OMG privacy" excuse for not doing so pales into insignificance.

So this, for me, is not applicable.

hondaman · Post by **hondaman** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:44 pm

This is one of the reasons I don't have a smart phone, I've had a Nokia 6230 for eons and it does me perfectly, for just making calls and sending texts, I was persauded to to get one at Christmas 2103, but in the first 4 hours of having it, it ate so much data, it was going to cost me a small fortune to keep it... so back it went and i reverted to my trusty 6230.