Car going to be written off help

[Donald]

Have you seen newkid's pics?

Only going off what I've seen with my eyes on very similar damage on a 5G, rather than hypothesizing about the integrity (or lack of) of a few spot welds based on 4G knowledge. The lip on mine wasn't even damaged and still the inner was affected, showing that obviously the energy must traverse somewhere.

I fully accept that the damage might not be enough call it a Cat B or dangerous, w/e. But it is obvious that it must be damaged in somewhere and to repair the outer properly any decent place is going to need to body lemonade about with the inner.

Can't believe I'm arguing about physics with an engineer again

[wurlycorner]

Have you seen newkid's pics?

Errm, yeah, otherwise how could I have said this?

There's bugger-all damage at the lip on newkids car, all the damage is above that, in the hollow, so there will be bugger all damage to the inner wing as a result.

Specifically, this pic is the only one;


That is absolutely drokk all damage to the rear wing lip, as I've said above.
In fact, the more I look at it... The more you can see that the only place where the inner and outer wing are joined (the bottom fold) isn't actually deformed at all, it's only the out wing crease line above that, that is.

4th gen and 5th gen rear quarters are constructed in the same way as each other. (As are Civics, Accords etc of the same era - all the same.)

nb: this isn't about a detailed understanding of physics (transfer of forces), it's about a practical understanding of the way the thing is put together, which bits are structural and which bits are niff/naff and how car body panels behave when they're deformed and what's required to sort it. So ner

Are you telling me that if someone like... say, Phil went up and gave the rear panel on a 5th gen a massive boot (for which he would achieve a far bigger dent than that) that he'd structurally damage the car in a way that it was unsafe to repair?

Bullshit...

[4thgenphil]

you calling me fat?

[Donald]

Are you telling me that if someone like... say, Phil went up and gave the rear panel on a 5th gen a massive boot (for which he would achieve a far bigger dent than that) that he'd structurally damage the car in a way that it was unsafe to repair?

Nope. I thought I'd made that fairly clear. Also how do you know the geezer wasn't Phil sized? You're bringing things into your argument that are entirely unfounded.

I fully accept that the damage might not be enough call it a Cat B or dangerous, w/e.

it's about a practical understanding of the way the thing is put together, which bits are structural and which bits are niff/naff and how car body panels behave when they're deformed and what's required to sort it

That's all fine wurly. I'm just going to quote this though:

Only going off what I've seen with my eyes on very similar damage on a 5G [...] The lip on mine wasn't even damaged and still the inner was affected, showing that obviously the energy must traverse somewhere.

So... fine, it may not be the same situation but stop being obtuse. You can't dismiss something that happened in favour of a less than perfectly focused picture from one angle, taken at night with a flash.



Also, lol:

this isn't about a detailed understanding of physics (transfer of forces), it's about a practical understanding of the way the thing is put together, which bits are structural and which bits are niff/naff and how car body panels behave when they're deformed and what's required to sort it.

In materials science, deformation refers to any changes in the shape or size of an object due to-

an applied force (the deformation energy in this case is transferred through work)

[NafemanNathan]

[Shiny]

https://www.abi.org.uk/~/media/Files/Do ... lvage.ashx

[Vtecmec]

I've repaired far far worse when I used to be in the trade (B pillars, etc.), I'm amazed it's a cat B.

[wurlycorner]

[vanzep]

Im not surprised the insurance company has written it off but i am very surprised its Cat B
that really sucks - i do hope you can still buy it back and get some of the good parts off it like the new tyres and good alloys and your fancy exhaust ( i forget what make it is)

[hondaman]

That sucks Newkid, I would be catatonic if some little c*** did that to mine, even if it is dented already,

What I would say is if the paint isn't damaged or split where the dents are, someone like Dent Master could probably pull them out, I'd give that a go before giving up all hope, I had a huge dent removed from one my cars for £80 and you couldn't even see where it was, good luck.