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Post by mercutio » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:29 pm

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Post by NafemanNathan » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:55 pm

Drax wrote:type s 11.0:1 compression 5g engine,
So is that a Type-S engine Drax, or just Type-S pistons and rods in an a5 or something?

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Re: Drax's Road & Track Lude *New Engine Build

Post by Drax » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:27 am

NafemanNathan wrote:
Drax wrote:type s 11.0:1 compression 5g engine,
So is that a Type-S engine Drax, or just Type-S pistons and rods in an a5 or something?
type s block, but ive just been told that could be a problem :(

Merlin ill get you some more pics of the sump tomorrow mate :)
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:26 am

Drax wrote:
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Drax wrote:type s 11.0:1 compression 5g engine,
So is that a Type-S engine Drax, or just Type-S pistons and rods in an a5 or something?
type s block, but ive just been told that could be a problem :(
Yes, I hadn't realised you meant an actually Type-S block. It was Newkid that noticed and thought it should be mentioned :)

It'd be the blanking off of the ATTS unit that'd be the problem. I've not seen one properly to know what it would require. Might be best, easiest and cheapest to get a donor bare standard block and transferring everything across. You could take the opportunity to clean, re-lube and re-seal everything as you go. Might make things easier. Then sell the bare Type-S block and get more than you money back for the standard bare block ;-)

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Post by Merlin » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:34 am

Where on the pics does it show/indicate that it is a Type-S block? I cant see it.
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Post by NafemanNathan » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:52 am

It doesn't, they're all facing the wrong way. It's just what Drax has written each time.

Can you take a picture of where the ATTS unit bolts on Drax?

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Re: Drax's Road & Track Lude *New Engine Build

Post by Drax » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:09 am

Merlin wrote: Find someone who can do you a good valve job on the head. 3 way, 5 way or radius, radius is better ;)
You might want to think about oil cooling as well.
Drax wrote:so im on the lookout for Evo 440 ones or something else that may suit.
They used Toyota Eclipse 450cc injectors on my engine.
i have a feeling a valve job has already been done on the head but i need to double check, new ATR valvle springs & retainers were put in before it was sold to me as well as the p&p but i need to put in the skunk2 ones instead anyway.
Oil cooling - check! that pretty essentail to a build like this, or an added bonus?
Toyota Eclipse 450cc injectors - righty ho, ill keep a lookout, they just splice into the wiring or do i need pigtail set for them?
NafemanNathan wrote: Some handy tools and space there to :)
I'd say whilst it's all stripped down to definitely inspect and probably replace all the seals whilst you're there ;-)
the tools were part of the engine buy :) very lucky find! seal replacement for definate then, check!
wurlycorner wrote: :? New oil pump as well, while it's stripped?
oil pump - check! will prob replace the water pump too tbh
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nice one thanks bri :) ill have to pop down to see you
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yeh a mate of mine spotted it for sale brand new unused 8-)
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Drax wrote:
NafemanNathan wrote:
Drax wrote:type s 11.0:1 compression 5g engine,
So is that a Type-S engine Drax, or just Type-S pistons and rods in an a5 or something?
type s block, but ive just been told that could be a problem :(
Yes, I hadn't realised you meant an actually Type-S block. It was Newkid that noticed and thought it should be mentioned :)

It'd be the blanking off of the ATTS unit that'd be the problem. I've not seen one properly to know what it would require. Might be best, easiest and cheapest to get a donor bare standard block and transferring everything across. You could take the opportunity to clean, re-lube and re-seal everything as you go. Might make things easier. Then sell the bare Type-S block and get more than you money back for the standard bare block ;-)
yeh i thought about it last night after gary mentioned it and then i remembered ATTS.... DOH!! well, block selling time as i still have your ATR A&B pistons spare in case i got a differant block, will have to keep an eye out for someone selling a standard or ATR block instead, ah well
Merlin wrote:Where one the pics does it show/indicate that it is a Type-S block? I cant see it.
it was sold as a type s block - engine code shows H22 plus it came with the type s head & cams - any way of defo telling on the block? or maybe marking on the cams too?

it's something i was looking at here when buying the block http://www.ludegeneration.co.uk/honda-p ... 10194.html
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Post by Merlin » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:13 am

Drax wrote:i have a feeling a valve job has already been done on teh head but i need to double check, new ATR valvle springs & retainers were put in before it was sold to me as well as the p&p but i need to put in the skunk2 ones instead anyway.
Oil cooling - check! that pretty essentail to a build like this, or an added bonus?
Toyota Eclipse 450cc injectors - righty ho, ill keep a lookout, they just splice into the wiring or do i need pigtail set for them?
I would class the oil cooler as essential if you are tracking it. My injectors plug straight in. Take a pic of the back of the block for us, it shoul dbe fairly obvious if it is a Type-S block or not (ATTS evidence and different oil filter location).
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Re: Drax's Road & Track Lude *New Engine Build

Post by Drax » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:40 am

NafemanNathan wrote:It doesn't, they're all facing the wrong way. It's just what Drax has written each time.

Can you take a picture of where the ATTS unit bolts on Drax?
ill take pics tonight mate :)
Merlin wrote: I would class the oil cooler as essential if you are tracking it. My injectors plug straight in. Take a pic of the back of the block for us, it shoul dbe fairly obvious if it is a Type-S block or not (ATTS evidence and different oil filter location).
ok, i shall add oil cooler to the list of orders, any recommendations? as there seems to be a few around and i dont want cheap crap :? ill take pics tonight of the back of the block. good news about the injectors, i love plug & play 8-)

if the pics show where the ATTS bolts on then it should be type s block, ill have a butchers later
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