Nathan's Road-Legal/Track BB4

[nucleustylzlude]

Is the garage a separate application to the house extension, or as one?

My build is only a householders application apparently, I take it yours is full due to being combined with the house extension or because of the size?

Being in construction consultancy you build up a hate for council planning departments! Fingers crossed you get it approved – third time lucky!

[NafemanNathan]

It's combined. First application for full planning was £150. A first resubmission was free. There after you have to pay again, but the fee has just gone up to £172, so if I was to split the planning (which I was considering) I'd have to fork out £172 x2

If I don't get it this time I will split it into two applications though (Hopefully I'll be entitled to one free one). My neighbour at the bottom of the garden is a nosey old cow and outright told me when I first mentioned it to her that she likes looking into my garden! Even though I've purposely kept the end line of it inline with her god-awful shantytown style birdhouses, so it shouldn't even impact her greatly. But because she writes in a letter of complaint each time I submit planning it automatically summons three ward members and their opinions have counteracted the town council's support for my application each time. (They have an issue with my rear extension.)

If I split the garage seperate, when she complains it'll summon the three ward members, but they should hopefully not have an issue with the new garage plans. Like I said I've already had the thumbs up from my case officer and the ward members were in agreement with her last time about it being too tall. Then if the rear extension is seperate, my neighbour will have no reason to complain as the house is so far away from her anyway and she's not once mentioned the extension in her concerns.

[nucleustylzlude]

Ah, I see. Fair enough. A bit annoying on the fees though - I swear that's alot cheaper than my councils full planning fee though, so think yourself lucky there. If I remember right, my householders application is £150.

Good luck though. Bloomin neighbours can be a pain. Hopefully I have both side on board for mine, discussed my plans with them a couple of years back now and they seemed all for it. We'll seen when it's made official though!

[Donald]

Neighbours are dicks.

IMO, it's your garden, so do what you drokking want. It's not like you're going to have a 20ft Kim Jong Il riding a nuke tribute on your lawn, and even if you did it would be better than poxy birdhouses. Should be none of her business what you have done to your own property. I wholly disagree with planning permission. Building regs yes, but having to ask permission to put something on your property and having to pay to do so absolutely stinks.

Plant some conifers at the end of the garden, get a sparrowhawk.

[NafemanNathan]

She's also clutching at the speculation that I'll be using the garage for business and that there'll be noise pollution and pollution in general

For obvious reasons I've not lost my cool with her (not that she knows about anyway), but there will be a 2 metre high fence going up to keep the nosey bitch out.

Shame really as I'm a good neighbour. I even burnt there old bird house down (wait for it!) when they were dismantling it to build their new (what turn out to be god-awful) birdhouse. As they have a small lawn and I already had a designated bonfire patch I thought it was neighbourly to offer. This was obviously all before the planning issues. They then destroyed a couple of my fence panels as her idiot creepy son lent the old soggy chipboard bird house panels on my fence and it broke under the sheer weight! And then they claimed they were doing me a favour by replacing them for me when I didn't replace them myself! (They also have a yappy dog they didn't want getting out)

But yes, planning permission is ridiculous. I can understand the need for it, because if you were an asshole you could really go to town on being a gentleman's sausage, but when they're telling me the rear extension I want is too big even though none of my neighbours have any issues with it and have even written letters of support, there's a smaller property around the corner with the same size extension, and ward members have simply said "No" without even coming out to see the plot... It really pisses me off! It is actually hindering my life at the moment.

Last year after the first application was refused and I went in to see the planning control team leader, he even had the cheek to tell me maybe I should move!!! I have a very large plot that I was incredibly lucky to find, with the potential to do almost anything on. There are no garden's in my town with gardens as big that aren't price well over £300,000 which is twice what I can afford, and they're telling me I can't have what I want because it doubles the size of my properties existing footprint! Who gives a drokk what the existing footprint is?! I'm wanting to make my house bigger because I want it bigger! If my immediate neighbours don't object, what's the problem?!

[wurlycorner]

Being in construction consultancy you build up a hate for council planning departments!

That depends where you live. Chelmsford council just approve every application from house builders. Especially if it has the name 'Barratt' at the bottom.
Application to demolish the bus station, build a terribly cheaply designed and impractical tower block in its place AND charge us £1.5million* to put in a row of unenclosed bus stops with no seats at the bottom of it? YES PLEASE! Quick, where do we sign up?!!!

Meanwhile, here's an application to build a load of houses on an allotment site. We have several letters of objection including one which has been very carefully written with explicit reference to our guidance notes on what are acceptable grounds on which to lodge an objection and what aren't, but I can't be bothered to read it out. It has inadequate parking spaces and no gardens or play area for the children of the target buyers for the houses, so they'll end up playing on the small green that existing residents park around on 3 sides and where the 4th side fronts directly onto a busy road. So before we vote, do the councillors of the committee have anything to say? "do we really want to be building something where one of the houses will have a view of the back of an undertakers shop?" *tumbleweed* "Application approved"

"And to follow, here's a shopping centre. It's being built along the river bank in the centre of town. The extensive frontage that faces onto the river has an all brick facade, with no windows to make use of the attractive natural feature and prevent a dark featureless alley being created." "Oh that sounds fantastic, quick, snap that one up!"


Useless tossers.

*I can't remember the exact figure and it's quite possible I've got it wrong but it was a ridiculously sizeable sum of money...

[Donald]

Sounds about right. I've worked on some terrible sites build quality really is atrocious. One row of houses we were given the go ahead to remove the scaffold, even though the sticky out windows on the roof (not a velux, the other Edwardian looking things?) had been left unfinished. People moved in and it was never sorted.

Btw Nafe I think this is the first thread over 100 pages? It has it's own icon.

[NafemanNathan]

Btw Nafe I think this is the first thread over 100 pages? It has it's own icon.

Do you mean the embarassed smilie icon? No I gave my thread that as it's getting so long now, with so little progress, it's getting embarassing

[Donald]

Nah go to the parent forum where you can see all topics

[Donald]

Never mind it was some ifail alignment issue made it look like a cool icon.