Where is the front foglight sub-harness?...

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:14 pm

Can anybody tell me where this Foglight Sub-harness found behind the front bumper supposedly is and also where the relay(s) can be found?

This was taken from another thread and I was directed to it as I am selling my foglights...

Pushki wrote:
Edson wrote:if my JDM lude didn't come with front fogs, will the wires, relays and connectors be there already ?
You should have the wiring behind the front bumper, usually wrapped in blue tape.
You will need everything in this picture.

Having just had a look I can not see such a harness, and now thinking about it, when I removed the entire harness from the project lude to do the wire tuck, there were definitely no detachable sub-harnesses and that came with front foglights from the factory too.

The foglight connectors are obviously there behind the bumper, but they're all part of the rest of the lights harness. I'm assuming these connectors will be in any 4th gen's light harness, just not necessarily with the foglights connect to them. (That's the way things normally work with extras anyway).

So where does this sub-harness connect and where is the relay located?

I can't find anything in the manuals either

@Pushki
@aardvark64

Post by **Pushki** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:15 pm

This should help you Nafe.

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:24 pm

AH!!!

That explains what one of the loose connectors I see under the dash on my UKDM is!!!

So basically, the wiring to the fogs themselves should already be there, this just connects it up at the dash end.

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:44 pm

Are both those pages taken from a UKDM manual @Pushki, as so far nothing applies to either of my JDM's.

I'm just uploading some pictures.

89 UKDM BA4 4WS (resto job!) · Post by **wurlycorner** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:45 pm

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:04 pm

Well I've disconnected this...

Which was bolted to this lug right underneath the steering column...

The stubby little extension shown in the first pic disconnected here...

And it is just a stubby extention as the male plugs are exactly the same...

Having read this it suggests that the USDM's have the same as both my JDM's as the "sub-harness" isn't necessary, but helps locate the "singular" relay where it should locate (As my stubby one does).

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1305905

aardvark64 · Post by **aardvark64** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:07 pm

This worked for me:

Don't have a 'Lude any more so can't offer you more help than this. Sorry. Hope you get it sorted.

Best wishes, Colin

Post by **NafemanNathan** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:38 pm

That's it Colin!

If you look at the Sub-harness in part 6 of that page you've just posted up, that's the small stubby extension I have

So there must be a difference between JDM/USDM and UKDM as I suspected.

Thought you'd be able to help

Thank you

mart609 · Post by **mart609** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:20 pm

Just copied this from my Profile
Pre / Post facelist have the plug for the switch wiring in different places too I think. pre facelift is behind the drivers side tweeter cover.

ok so here goes
the fogs themselves were installed by the bodyshop when it was in for all the work so that steps skipped

onto the wiring
1st of all i had the Wiring harness & relays

now to find the plug... underneath the dash somewhere... after a bit of searching... nothing. after a longer search with a torch i eventually found the plug taped up high up behind the airduct under the drivers footwell

from this pic you can just see the blue tape high up behind the ducting

and here a better pic

once uptaped hanging down, i connected that part of the harness to the plug

then next time to connect the rest up.
open up the fusebox and upplug the big 20 pin connector and plug it into the harness, then plug the harness back into the fusebox where you removed the connector

then position the harness neatly away with the rest of the wiring with a few cable ties.
thats that part done!

Now to the switch part
so my cars a pre-facelift so the free places for the switch to go are behind the handbrake just in front of the 'sex blocker'
so i open the cover and take a look for the connector plug

hmmm nothing there

so i removed the whole centre console (which i found later i would have to do anyway to run the new wires neatly)

still nothing

back to the tinterwebs... after some researching (thanks aardvark) i found that the pre-facelift connector is located behind the drivers side tweeter cover

but i had a JDM switch, which had a completly different connector, which i didnt have

but after some searching in the garage i found 1

so next thing was off down my mates garage to borrow his wire tester...
a short while later, we'd figured out the correct wires... some wires are not needed
then gave it a quick test to double check it worked

so onto the next, running the extra wiring to where i wanted the switch to be.
so i ran a piece of wire back through behind the tweeter under the dash and down the centre console to just past the handbrake and cut to length
then i cut another 2 pieces to the same length, then to make sure i knew which end was which, i taped the ends different colours

then proceeded to wire both ends up

with that done, only thing left was to put everything back into place, wires neatly tucked away behind the tweeter cover and centre console back in place